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We Finns have figured out how to equalise the money part as well.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland...

The article addresses that. Apparently Estonians consider Finland's system inferior to theirs.

> Estonians have praised the idea for being more egalitarian—monetary fines are not adjusted according to income, as in neighbouring Finland, but everyone has the same number of hours in the day

Ok, so here is the diplomatic Swede interfering in the affairs of others: why not combine the two? Pay a progressive fine or wait by the roadside.

I have a feeling that a certain class of rich person would be much more bothered by being made to wait than just paying a large fine.

Does that matter? There's also a certain class of rich person that would not want to pay 50,000 euros for speeding.

So BOTH a progressive fine and an imposed wait should work for everyone then.

I like it!

They’re probably correlated with the highest incomes, so the result of them choosing to pay is a lot of extra revenue for the police (or whoever the fines go to). This could be seen as an advantage.

It's ridiculousness to me that fine revenue ends up in city / police coffers. Talk about a conflict of interest.

That's literally what's described in the article.

Are you sure? This is a quote from the article: "monetary fines are not adjusted according to income, as in neighbouring Finland"

I'm not sure it's actually as egalitarian as it first sounds. Low-income jobs tend to be a lot less forgiving to being an hour late for work, than higher-paying jobs.

Back when I worked in food service, being an hour late probably meant today was your last day. Now, I'm not sure anyone would actually notice. Higher up, if you're late, people will wait for you.

If a 1-hour timeout creates a split between "so I lost my job" and "so I finished an hour later", it's still punishing the poor more.

A progressive tax is a nice start, albeit less original. The problem is some extremely rich folk don't necessarily have a high salary.

Punishing with micro-timeouts like this is much more interesting imo.

I would like that in Germany too. Here it's fixed but if you get caught speeding beyond a threshold your driver's license gets suspended we also get points and with a certain amount of points you are not allowed to drive anymore at all.

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