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...curiously, this has not had the effect of workers voting to unionize at any of Toyota's plants in the US, where they have that option.

Of course, as the managers of Suzuki put it when they were building out the CAMI site in Ontario...you don't adopt another company's production system exactly, any more than you would wear a suit tailored to someone else.

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Doesn't stop programmers from arguing for a process because Google does it.

Especially when they are completely ignoring the fact that what works for Google usually works for Google because they have achieved a certain scale, not that Google achieved that scale by adopting these methods.

To be honest there are a lot of processes that don't work for google either but with their treasure chest of money and profits from an easily defended monopoly flowing in, it's really hard to argue that.

I can still remember all of the people who defended the brainteaser questions microsoft and google used to toss at interviewees. If I was right that they were bullshit why wasn't I worth a billion dollars?

I must be in the twilight zone -- could this thread be the watershed moment where sanity prevails in software?

Key Performance Indicators aka when metrics turn into targets for jumped up managers

People don't understand dress analogies any more, it's reduced to absurdity along the lines of 'I don't wear suits so problem avoided'

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