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Person A: where do u see 5y5y = where is XYZ financial instrument trading? (in this case, a 5y5y forward swap, I'm guessing)

B: size? = how much do you want to buy or sell?

A: 20k = $20,000

B: 2.4456/2.4511 = bid/offer = price/rate that A can sell/buy at

A: tx

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One amendment: 20k means dollars per basis point, rather than dollars of notional. That is, enough notional that a 0.01% change in interest rates would cause a $20 000 change in the net present value of the instrument. Traders often think in these terms because it makes it much easier to compare across different instruments.

Also, if you tried to trade 20k dollars notional, dealers would tell you to get lost, because an amount that tiny isn't worth their time.

Thanks, $20k seemed exceedingly low on a notional basis but I'm obviously not familiar with that market.

also known as DV01 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_duration#Dollar_duration,...

traded like this because it is a meaningful measure of risk regardless of tenor. also its the same whether you're doing bonds or interest rate swaps (or, rarer, options)

and if that 2.* header is stable enough brokers often drop it because they're lazy AF

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