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Joe Rogan did a great Podcast with one of the pilots in this incident:

He's really knowledgeable, has a ton of flight experience and carefully details everything his and the other pilots see from their aircraft.

Yeah I loved that episode! I would love to see somebody who could lean against him intellectually interview him though.

This is a criticism that could be made of every Rogan episode.

Fighter Pilot Podcast had him too. It was great to listen to - https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/episodes/035-ufos/