Charlie Rose always seemed to be trying to play some sort of mind game to goad information out of his guests. I went down a rabbit hole of watching old historical interviews and discovered interviews were very tame. Like, Dick Cavett's famous interview with Marlon Brando - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU-4wmwc2Rw where the host was friendly and letting the guest speak above all else. Anything resembling this level of genuine conversation is a nice treat.