There is no world where a tool or language for which you need hundreds of megabytes of unknown untrusted dependencies of dubious quality is considered a good tool.

...what? He was bemoaning React making things far more difficult than they need to be. And I think that’s a fair assessment of the situation. There’s a minimum overhead to maintaining a modern js app that is far higher than maintaining say, a Rails frontend. And it’s more costly for every change.

He's saying that there is client side rendering and now there needs to _also_ be server side rendering to compensate for its shortcomings.