"Fail early, kill innocents often" is a terrible paradigm.
"Fail early, kill innocents often" is a terrible paradigm.
Also; "fail early, kill innocents" is a great paradigm for staying in power.
The beatings will continue until moral improves.
Firstly, it's about time we stop pretending that people wait until technology does something better than humans do before they deploy it. It will be deployed long before that point. Secondly, there are more reasons to be concerned about this sort of technology than just whether it is effective at its intended purpose (identifying people who do not want to be found, at long range, for the purpose of assassination).
I think we need to stop pretending that humans are perfect, or even acceptably good.
Computers get better as time goes off. This technology wasn't a thing ten years ago. Now it's questionable. In ten years it'll be better than it was today. Humans will be exactly as good in ten years as they were today and exactly as good as they were a hundred years ago. And what they are today is not good enough.
> identifying people who do not want to be found, at long range, for the purpose of assassination
I think we need to stop pretending that humans are paragons of virtue. They do things we should be concerned about even when they can't execute effectively.
Long-range identification and assassination of people who don't want to be found is a capability that already exists, and in fact has existed for centuries - for a given value of "exists". Sniper teams, helicopter gunships, and artillery spotters have precisely this role and they make mistakes and kill the wrong people all the damn time.
And on top of that... when was the last time you heard about some US soldiers committing war crimes, in person, with their bare hands? No technology involved at all. No technology needed. Stop blaming it for human failings.
Okay. Automated call systems have been deployed for decades now and continue to increase their market penetration. They are still not nearly as useful or good at what they do as a human would be, but that did not make any significant difference to the speed and rate at which they were deployed. Your argument is that abstractly, at some point, they should be better than humans. Maybe so, but that's not what I was arguing--I was arguing that the conditions for a technology's deployment are only distantly correlated with how good they are in comparison to humans performing the same task, not making some philosophical point about how the machines will not replace us or whatever.
> And on top of that... when was the last time you heard about some US soldiers committing war crimes, in person, with their bare hands? No technology involved at all. No technology needed. Stop blaming it for human failings.
I'm not really going to bother to respond in depth to the rest of the stuff you said since it seems to be responding to points I did not make (when did I ever say people were paragons of virtuous, hadn't killed people before, didn't make mistakes, or didn't use technology to kill people?). I am merely pointing out that technology is not value neutral; the particular technology we are talking about is explicitly designed to do pretty awful things. Responding that the real problem is people is missing the point; it's another iteration of the "guns don't kill people" argument.
Does it matter if the technology makes the precision a bit better and the individual person evaluated for being killed, has a little better chance of surviving, thanks to being identified by a machine?
When... the machines allow many more people being killed. After all, this is what automation allows us to do. How many qualified and highly trained snipers could the military deploy? Not very many, compared to how many drones and other augmented systems they can deploy now and in the future.
Imagine every street corner equipped not only with CCTV, but augmented sniper turrets. I wouldn't bat an eye if a the next invaded city was blanketed with systems like these.
We already do that. It's just that the computers are squishy, unverifiable, black-boxed wetware that tend to commit war crimes, and the actuators are twitchy pieces of crap that are so bad at shooting that they have to be equipped with machine guns. What do you think soldiers are doing when they get shot at or blown up by insurgents or accidentally shoot reporters or civilians? They're not sitting in their base playing cards, that's for sure.
100 thousand automatic machines with 5% failure will kill many, many more. Possibly forever, because there will be no need "take our troops home". The troops are already at home, pressing kill/live in their drone baracks.
Imagine if one of the superpowers one of these days would develop the technology to smoke anyone they wanted anywhere on the surface of the planet with 100% accuracy. Do you believe that would lead to more or less deaths? Do you believe this would lead to unchecked use of that power?
Personally I'm not too optimistic.
The only mention which comes close:
> “Fusion of an established identity and information we know about allows us to decide and act with greater focus, and if needed, lethality,”
"Fusion" is military parlance for "we would use a variety of sensor inputs and systems" to make inferences. So, this would likely be only one component of many others used to determine identity and/or hostile intent.