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Here's the reddit thread in question:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/epoloy/ive_smoketeste...

I have no doubt it led to some github issue brigading, but it's not really that big of a deal. Ostracizing /r/rust in a mealy mouthed way probably won't make that community better...

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Yeah, I feel people here attack /r/rust with even more vitriol than /r/rust attacked the author of Actix. Plenty of kettles here.

Yeah, I agree. “It’s all reddit’s fault” is not helpful at all and simply wrong from reading that thread.

You cannot get the full context from a single reddit thread; as I mentioned in the post, this situation is the product of multiple events. You'd at least need the posts from all of them, let alone that this is only one of the posts from this situation on reddit in the last day.

I think that's where some of the confusion comes in.

You say:

"Some people go far, far, far over the line."

So some people are assuming this is just the maintainer responding badly to people pointing out problems with his or her code, but you are saying it went far beyond that into personal attacks?

Yes, they did. I posted an example of a particularly egregious one elsewhere in this thread.

Yeah, saw that. Criticism of code should turning into personal attacks is never justified.

There were some personal attacks on GitHub.

I mean this in the most respectful way possible, but have you considered your own antagonism against Reddit is not healthy for the community? Throughout the years I've seen you talk down about Reddit and the people there quite a bit. I get that they're "rougher" than the ideal Rust citizen but they're also real people and members of the community. It's probably best not to judge one of the largest sites on the internet if for no other reason than it breeds hostility.

I go back and forth on it. I try to also say that I think /r/rust is better than most Reddits, but I think the core problem is structural, and what I say doesn’t matter that much.

Fair enough.

FWIW what you say matters a lot, pretty sure you have a ton of respect from a lot of engineers across multiple language communities (myself definitely included).

I definitely appreciate how difficult it is to be the "custodian" of a) a language community and b) an open source project within that community.

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