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If you want No Code solution, AirTable and Coda. On one hand I sort of wish more business knew about it as it would likely simplify most of their work load. On the other hand I dont want that to happen as it gives current businesses advantage.

For Coding Solution, ( Incoming Unpopular opinion ) if you dont mind modern PHP, ( which is a lot better than old PHP) Laravel [1] is to my mind undoubtedly the king of CRUD framework. The whole ecosystem is, and continue to be outpacing and growing faster than Rails ecosystem. Which makes me very envy.

If you dont like PHP, then Ruby Rails.

[1] https://laravel.com

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I am a long time fan of Laravel. A tool that I find to be extremely useful for building out CRUD front ends in Laravel is the product Nova[1] which has been developed by the core maintaienrs of Laravel.

Really fast for building maintainable admin/back office UIs quickly.

[1] https://nova.laravel.com/

I think the hate has gone too far on PHP. I work in Laravel for work, and it continues to impress me. Such a pleasure!

Also, Laravel collections are amazing. They make working with arrays and transforming data a breeze.

I still dont like PHP in any sort of way, as a programming language it really is the bottom of my list. At least modern php is easier to swallow.

But Laravel, the amount of things that could get done in so little time. I think laravel took all the good ideas from Rails and ran way further ahead with it.

>I think the hate has gone too far on PHP

It was very well deserved back in the pre-7.0 days, when it was common to have horrific spaghetti projects with zero structure, global variables/functions everywhere, and all kinds of logic (including database calls) mixed into view templates. Modern PHP is a whole different world, but most people will simply choose something else now because that stigma is impossible to lose, and finding dedicated PHP developers is increasingly uncommon.

I disagree. You can't slap on features on a bad language and make it good language. You can only make it more palatable.

Good languages start good because the people who designed and built them had good idea of what they wanted to achieve and did not have existing users to compromise with.

> You can slap on features on a bad language and make it good language.

I believe you meant to say “you can’t ...”

Yes. That is what happens when you edit your post and then skip proofreading.

A great developer will write great code in any language/framework. A bad developer will write bad code in any language/framework. I have seen this so many times in my 25+ years of developing software and don’t expect this to change anytime soon.

And for a non-free addon, Laravel Nova was amazing for the admin CRUD for my API-only site.

Are organizations using AirTable with LDAP or Active Directory? I see there are some connectors, but it does not appear to have first class support.

have you seen django admin https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.0/ref/contrib/admin/? It's auto generated when you build an app. Flask has something similar.

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