Side note, the owner of that company was a very rich man and also one of the unhappiest people I’ve ever met in my life. It was a good lesson to learn at my young age then.
Side note, the owner of that company was a very rich man and also one of the unhappiest people I’ve ever met in my life. It was a good lesson to learn at my young age then.
I wonder how many of them would even care. This week the EPA dismantled the Clean Water Rule.
The primary backers for this were farmers and developers.
This week, the EPA rolled back an Obama-era executive order interpreting the Clean Water Act. Hard to see how rescinding a three year old executive order could “dismantle” a 47-year old statute.
The Obama-era interpretation was ridiculous on top of everything else. The Wikipedia article is actually pretty good:
> The Clean Water Act is the primary federal law regulating water pollution in the United States. The language of the Clean Water Act describes itself as pertaining to ‘Waters of the United States’. These the act defines as ‘navigable waterways’, which connects the act to constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce. Two U.S. Supreme Court decisions, in 2001 and 2006, interpreted the law to include waters not presently navigable that were formerly navigable that might be readily dredged to be restored to navigation or be made available for navigation. The scope of these decisions cast into doubt lower court decisions interpreting the act’s authority to extend regulatory authority to streams, wetlands, and small bodies of water not navigable in the sense of the interstate commerce clause.
So the Clean Water Act says the EPA can regulate ”the waters of the United States,” which is defined consistent with “navigable waters,” contemporaneous with Congress’s Commerce Clause authority over navigable waterways. The Obama EO extended it to include even small bodies of waters like ponds, such that farmers would have to get EPA permits to make modifications on their own land that was nowhere near navigable waters.
Maybe we need a law that requires permitting of everything that could affect any body of water no matter how small, because it’s true that pollution can flow from such waters into navigable waters. Maybe there is a way to even make such a law constitutional (e.g. setting up state regulation of water bodies that fall outside the commerce clause). But the Clean Water Act is not that law, and the permitting framework under the CWA is not appropriate for farmers doing work on land far from rivers and lakes.
So just because farmers supported rolling back this rule, why would you assume they’d be okay with radioactive materials polluting their land? Is there any room in our politics to acknowledge that agencies sometimes overreach, and just because you want to push back on that overreach doesn’t mean you want get rid of the agency or long-standing laws entirely?
That is a rather distorted view of the water. Note that the definition of "navigable waters" is explicitly laid out in the law (33 USC §1362 (7), for exact reference) as:
> The term “navigable waters” means the waters of the United States, including the territorial seas.
This has been generally interpreted to include at least pretty much all non-ephemeral streams in the US, and ephemeral waterways are rather more questionable. See, e.g., Rapanos v US, decided in 2006 (i.e., before Obama took office).
Rapanos doesn’t define exactly what navigable waters are, but casts sharp doubt on two types of waters: ephemeral streams, and wetlands without a surface water connection to navigable water.
The key changes to the 2020 rule are to exclude those things: https://www.eenews.net/stories/1062159101
> Specifically, the new rule will erase protections for so-called ephemeral streams, which flow only after rain or during snowmelt.
> The rule also erases protections for wetlands that do not have surface water connections to intermittent or perennial streams, which account for more than 51% of the nation's wetlands.
The media would lead you to believe farmers have stock piles of 50 gallon chemical drums they're waiting to pour into our lakes and streams.
My partner's take is that a wetland, natural or otherwise is a protected habitat that can't just be destroyed. Farms have such wetlands and land developers are finding they can't just buy up farm land and plop developments on it due to wetlands.
That seems to make the most sense to me being that Trump is a developer.
States can, and do, regulate intrastate wetlands. And they can do it more efficiently, because they already handle permitting of local construction projects.
My point was that the rules rollback wasn't about farmers wanting to pollute or regulation of water ways, but rather about eliminating restrictions and regulations that inhibit land development on wetlands.
Nothing you have said challenges that assertion, you just seem to be hung up on whether or not the Fed has the right to regulate something.
If you can find an actual farmer - an endangered species as the industry consolidates into corporate CAFOs - I can promise you that they have no interest in drinking poison from their wells.
https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/research-innov...
Doesn't seem there is much there on controlling amounts of lead, cadmium and radium in the material. No on the gradual accumulation on the road.
As per the following paper, not much research had been done on the health effects of applying it on the roads and risks of dust particles lifted by vehicles being inhailed. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325460511_Environme...
And from its abstract: "Currently, state-by-state regulations do not require radium analyses prior to treating roads with O&G wastewaters.".
So it looks like there is a loophole that doesn't specifically disallow to accumulate unlimited amounts of radioactive material with 1600 years decay half-life on public roads.
Linked document is interesting, however it is "Brine Application Equipment and Methodology" - methodology of deicing paved roads. Only mention of toxic or waste is an aside of brine use motivation - granular material in California is for some reason regulated as toxic waste.
Mentioned in the document are NaCl, MgCl₂, CaCl₂ brines and beet juice, and in the survey section, some agencies also report use or discontent with proprietary deicing products.
Going by the second document, O&G wastewater use on roads is not permitted in California. In the 13 states that do allow its use, the study mostly mentions use on unpaved roads as a dust suppressant in lieu of salt brine (neither a particularly good idea IMO).