Its just a matter of time before Facebook merges WhatsApp with its Messenger (and keep either of those names).
Its just a matter of time before Facebook merges WhatsApp with its Messenger (and keep either of those names).
2. It would be a pretty big fiasco if they lied on e2e encryption. You can assume that people are actively and periodically reverse engineering their mobile apps, so this would surface at some point or another.
I believe you mean End-to-end-to-end encryption
Maybe this whole Bezos affair would convince them it's insecure spyware from yours truly Facebook and their friends in the UAE? I think not.
My perspective is, pick one of the many overlapping channels we already share or don't bother me. I am not signing up to yet another spyware-of-the-month app in order to chase your fashion sense.
> pick one of the many overlapping channels we already share
For a basic 'send text message from user A to user B' app, there are lots of options. Something that is as convenient as Whatsapp though - there are none.
The primary concern is that messages in Telegram aren't encrypted by default. But that's been the case for a lot of messengers and tbh for large groups privacy really can't be assumed on any E2E solution. (yes, technically but practically it wouldn't be the case)
The Telegram creators are also extremely cocky and the encryption they do use is non-standard and done mostly in-house. It backfired on them a little with MTProto which they've fixed in v2, but it doesn't make cryptographers confident.
Signal and Telegram have wildly different philosophies on what it means to be secure. Telegram refuses to implement E2E on desktop clients citing it being too large of an attack surface (I am inclined to agree with them). They emphasize ephemerality of conversations in a way Signal doesn't do (E2E chats in Telegram and frequently brought up and torn down, Signal instead just has self-destructing messages).
Finally, look at the creators' motivations. Moxie is having to sell double-ratchet stuff to the likes of Facebook and relies on Amazon and Google to run the service. Pavel is several orders of magnitude more rich, has been outspoken against Putin, and can afford to fund anything he needs done on Telegram. I'm not claiming either is more trustworthy, but motivations are radically different.
Remove cloud backups from telegram and it's instantly less valuable for me.
I just changed phones - different operating systems. If it were WhatsApp, my chats would be gone.
Telegram keeps years of my chat history without becoming slow like WhatsApp would have been.
With encrypted iTunes-backups an almost trivial way of moving your data exist at least for iOS.
The driver software has been completely taken over by Facebook's nakedly nefarious motivations. It's not even just spyware, or even malware; the term I would coin for it is "fuck-you-ware". Want to play the game you bought last year, on the headset you bought two years ago? Fuck you! Make an account first. We changed the rules and updated the software without asking you and now all your data are belong to us...