For example, the P4610 is a great deal for a mixed-use drive.
Otherwise, Intel SSDs have quite a bit of share in the datacenter space. If you haven't seen them before, that's likely because you're not an enterprise customer.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/412158/global-market-sha...
https://blocksandfiles.com/2019/06/03/ssd-revenue-and-shipme...
I sold over 2 million dollars worth of Intel SSDs to Amazon customers in the span of a week once. Intel was running an extremely nebulously defined promo for 'new' customers where resellers could get 90% off disty price on enterprise SSD.
I uploaded all the eligibles SKUs to amazon at like 15% off list, wrote up some really gross python scripts to manage orders between amazon and synnex and to submit the deal registrations, and then hit my 6 months sales quota in an afternoon.
The double bonus was 6 months later when I then registered for all the backend spiffs. The backend rebate on some of this stuff sometimes exceeded 10% of list price. To date it's the only deal I've ever put together that had more than 100% gross margin.
For the kind of executives that stay at a company like Intel, the only thing they care about is the company’s stock price, and they’ll do anything to keep it high, even if it’s at the expense of what quite literally is destroying or directly hemorrhaging in the long term to the company itself. It’s how you end up with crazy situations like this.
Lets say there's two solutions that would solve my end users problem equally well. Both have list prices of 10K, both have normal disty cost of 7K, but brand X is running a promo where I get a 50% off front end discount from disty, but brand y is not.
Now I call the customer up and let them know that not only is brand X the best solution, but because of my great relationship with brand x I've secured them a 20% discount off list.
So now the customer is getting what they need cheaper and I've got more margin in the deal, which is what my commision is calculated out of.
So essentially when vendors do this they're not trying to make things cheaper for the customer to increase demand, they're trying to make sure that their products put the most money in sales people's pockets so that sales people will push their stuff the hardest.
Though on this specific occasion I was following the letter (or lack thereof) of the promotion, but certainly not the spirit. Grabbing existing demand vs generating new demand.
So maybe not as strong anymore?
(Someone else already mentioned SSD.)
* Intel GPU. Work quite well on Linux for the past 10 years (albeit not ace 3D performance due to hardware limitations)
* Intel WLAN. Work great on Linux. They even worked in a time where almost no other FOSS drivers for WLAN were around.
* Intel LAN. Work great on Linux. Great performance.
I'm not at all a fan of Intel. Their x86-64 CPUs are overpriced compared to AMD's Ryzen and Threadripper. But the above three? I would not run away from these; on the contrary.
Intel GPU started with i740 (a stand-alone AGP card), which is the last stand-alone GPU they made... and that was 1998 or so.
Their networking chipsets were a result of Intel's own x86 motherboard business, especially in the server arena. Intel also bought out companies in the late 90s/early 2000s to build their stand-alone network appliance business (routers, firewalls, SSL accelerators, etc) only to prompt kill that off when x86 started stumbling thanks to the P4 and AMD's competition.
Hope aside, is there any reason to believe this time is different, and that Intel is serious about GPUs?
To paraphrase the common saying, "Insanity is trusting Intel over and over again with new products, and expecting different results"
If you go speak to IBM and you have an interesting app you can get time on a POWER9 server to see how well it runs.
Any work you put in to optimizing your code for the Cell would be completely thrown out if you brought it to another POWER architecture. At that point you might as well have hopped over to x86, ARM, CUDA, Xeon Phi, the Connection Machine, whatever.
The guys in charge now? Who the fuck knows. They seem good at making immense amounts of cash from yesterday's defacto monopoly, not so much at setting up tomorrow's.
Not really. GPGPU is not an existential threat to Intel, even now neither Nvidia or AMD are hurting Intel much. But TSMC is an existential threat, even with the recent rumours of splitting up Intel Fabs, it is all too late.
This leaves nVidia in a great position to commoditize their compliments, offering high performance ARM CPUs (like Amazon is offering) for a tiny margin just to fuck with Intel. And it really would. Versions with nVidia GPUs in the cache hierarchy (HBM) are just the icing on the cake.
Intel smartly got out of the memory business because it didn't want to join a race to the bottom fabbing commodity transistors, but there's a good chance that's in their not so distant future.
And yeah, TSMC is a pretty big threat too... I was ignoring 10nm as part of this, because we don't have any data yet as to whether it represents a permanent shift in Intel's ability to compete on fabrication. I personally doubt that. But it is possible.
Well said.
I think it is natural for Intel to start making dGPU to replace popular mainstream mobile GPU such as nVidia MX250. And that's what Intel's new DG1 starts from.
[1]: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15213/the-microsoft-surface-l...
The coming Ryzen Mobile with Zen 2 and Power Optimised Vega will do far better.
The problem in the GPU space is that so far Intel has always under delivered in tooling and performance.
I guess at least one can be happy that by being the underdog they play nice with FOSS community, as it tends to happen.
Now I want to get one, or a Phi or something from that era.
Intel was going to release Larrabee, their GPU based on x86, in 2010 but cancelled it because of poor performance.
All of Intel's integrated GPUs are adequate for desktop use and light gaming but they have poor performance compared to any Nvidia or AMD GPU. I don't know what you would call their internal instruction set.
We will see how Intel's new Xe GPU does. I'm predicting that they will cancel it in 2 years because of poor performance.
Likewise with 16 bit game consoles with their sprite engines.