His source may not have been Russia but that source may have gotten them from Russia.
Is everyone in America to be considered a suspected Russian agent now?
Because there is a scenario: Assange got the DNC leaks directly from someone in authority in the DNC, itself, knows the person, and knows they don't work for Russia (because the person already has high-level clearances/was rigorously vetted/etc.)
That sounds like something a foreign agent would want me to think.
Only Assange knows where he got the data. Why is it so easy for you to trust entities that were not involved in the leak so easily, yet disregard Assange's own agency over knowing/understanding where he got the data?
Is it because you maybe just don't like Assange as a person?
I mean, not vetting documents is one thing. But, actively engaging in election interference all over the world is another thing. Assange did the former - your beloved intelligence agency, are currently doing the latter. Its reasonable to assume that US Intelligence agencies are lying, utterly, to give themselves yet more budget for nefarious deeds - i.e. the "Ma' Russkies" narrative, which serves only to foment more hatred...
I think Assange isn't particularly careful or picky about what he releases and by extension particular inclined to thoroughly examine who's giving him that info. Additionally from all appearances he scheduled and coordinated (at the very least indicated he had something) to affect the US election.
As for my feelings about the various TLAs in the US they're mixed but I definitely think they're more likely to be able to tell who was actually involved than Assange.
[0] Wikileaks isn't a huge organization with massive investigatory prowess and resources, it wouldn't be terribly hard to believably fake non-association for a nation state.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03...
But I can't find anything about physical destruction, CrowdStrike claims to only have ever had images of the systems.
https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democ...
In 2018, the DNC said “The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-n...
The same agencies that said, with certainty, that there were WMD's in Iraq .. and then, after a few million innocent people have been murdered, can't find them?
I think Americans put too much faith in their TLA's. These organisations are as corruptible as any other, and - as we have learned - could just as easily be controlled by Russia as anyone else.
I can certainly imagine situation s where Assange would know this, but Assange hasn't claimed that Russia wasn't involved, by his own claims even when a pardon that would erase the risk he has been fleeing desperately from for years was dangled in front of him as an incentive, so I think it's pretty clear that either that situation does not exist or he has an undisclosed reason to preserve the image that Russia may have been involved. The former seems to be the simplest explanation.
> knows they don't work for Russia (because the person already has high-level clearances/was rigorously vetted/etc.)
World powers have had highly placed agents in foreign governments and political parties, etc., with high-level clearances that require rigorous vetting numerous times in the past. So, no, the person being in such a position does not establish that they are not a Russian agent or that Russia was not involved in their actions.
2. Suppose it had been a "cut-out" (though I'm incredulous of that). Do you believe they should have refused to publish in that case?
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180802/07182740351/as-dn...
(Not with you but with the likes of Seth Rich-conspiracy-theory spreading idiots).
You’re getting this data from a third party. One that may well have used a USB stick to copy the data AFTER exfiltrating it using some other method, but BEFORE handing it to wiki leaks.
Some shoddy timestamp correlations don’t mean that the data was stolen via USB in any way. They are inherently mutable and could well have been modified by an adversary to spread FUD.
But the evidence certainly seems to indicate a local copy done by somebody who wasn't trying to cover their tracks:
https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/guccifer-2-ngp-van-met...
The only evidence pointing to Russians is the CIA says so. The NSA gave it about a 50% chance before joining the other agencies to parrot what the CIA said.
Or, you know, this data was copied to a USB by Wikileaks at some point before publishing.
What does it make sense is the evil DNC murdering one of their own employees on US soil after a very public data breach.
If only we could think of a country that would profit from promoting this conspiracy theory! Then we might get closer to the truth.
Here we have an email recently obtained via FOIA, from Peter Strzok, showing he "squashed" the investigation:
That adds to the pile of suspicion. Seth had the means and the motive. Random killings are not so likely, even in DC. The attacker didn't take anything of value.
Podesta's emails also have very chilling comments about dealing with leakers.
I personally helped steal it, by casting one of the 3.7 million votes Hillary had over Bernie.
Also, I sent John Podesta that risotto recipe.
BernieBro conspiracies haven't changed much in the last few years, I guess.