Coronavirus: It is time for a radical acceptance of reality
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This is all so surreal to me. Shouldn't we have taken this with the seriousness it deserves when China was locking down 700 million people?
Like, even if you didn't believe what China was doing was correct, you should at least have been trying to formulate your best arguments over why China's reaction was wrong and looking for confirmatory and dis-confirmatory evidence over your arguments.
Instead, we spent six weeks in a state of such basic blissful ignorance of China (& other early countries/cruise ships) that we're scrambling now because we don't even have the data to make the right decisions.
For example, there was a case in Hong Kong where one person got it through the sewerage pipe of an infected person 10 floors above because they improperly modified their vent pipes: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic... . (This is a famous example of how SARS spread through Amoy Gardens in HK so HK people are hyper paranoid about this infection route).
This piece of news didn't even make a ripple in the West (I know because I have friends who work at SCMP and I asked them to look at the analytics, the only western media that picked up their story was... drudgereport.com)
Friends I know in HK are like, "Yeah, the canto news covered this story quite widely so we're all pretty aware" but you can't find any English awareness of this. Even the C D FUCKING C is not aware of this, their page on fecal borne transmissions (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/water.html) STILL says:
"CDC is reviewing all data on COVID-19 transmission as information becomes available. At this time, the risk of transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19 through sewerage systems is thought to be low. Although transmission of COVID-19 through sewage may be possible, there is no evidence to date that this has occurred. This guidance will be updated as necessary as new evidence is assessed.
SARS, a similar coronavirus, has been detected in untreated sewage for up to 2 to 14 days. In the 2003 SARS outbreak, there was documented transmission associated with sewage aerosols."
The case in Hong Kong happened ONE MONTH ago and the CDC didn't even pick this up!!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD?
In this epidemic the lockdown is meant to avoid overwhelming the medical system while we get herd immunity (by contamination and eventually vaccines) in the general population for when we remove it.
The last few weeks have been a sad disconfirmation that this is not the case. If even world leaders are getting this, it's strong evidence that nobody in their government has any fucking clue what they're doing (or at least the people with the fucking clue were not empowered to act).
Trump holds a press conference announcing this is a national emergency and even during the press conference, people were standing less than 1m apart, people were constantly touching their face, each speaker adjusted the microphone at the exact same spot and touched the podium at the exact same spot without sterilizing in between, nobody was wearing a mask and everyone was shaking hands except ONE person who did the elbow bump. Sure, some of this can be attributed to optics but they should also be demonstrating best practices if they want others to be taking those best practices seriously.
It’s always easy to look from the outside and yell “what are these idiots doing?!”
In any event I hope this does encourage more of a prepared mindset in people. I know it has for me. Events like this will only continue to happen and have increasingly far-reaching impacts. I equate it to using a try/catch instead of assuming your program will work flawlessly forever.
(Not saying anything about baseball bats and how they should be applied, no no no, wouldn't ever do that)
The actual article is in English.
Stop blowing your goddamn noses at the table in a crowded restaurant, thereby sharing your disease with a bunch of people who had no warning and no way to get way from you.
Stop licking your fingers to open plastic bags.
Stop wiping your face or nose and then touching other people, ew.
If you are in charge of anything, train your cashiers to absolutely never, ever, ever, ever upon pain of death (okay, firing offense) lick their fingers or wipe their face before handling bags, bagging items or giving change to their victims aka your customers. I have stopped going to some stores over this shit.
Use self checkout. If you run a store, install a good self checkout that doesn't make your customers crazy.
Stop touching people. Keep your hands to yourself.
Stop touching things unnecessarily.
Stop coughing at people. Go to the bathroom to cough, blow your nose, etc. To the best of your ability, try to not sneeze at people if at all humanly possible.
Wash your hands. Especially if you use a public toilet, good god.
Clean your home.
Clean your car.
Get rid of your giant pile of junk cluttering up your closets and going unused and rotting in place.
Walk more so the air isn't so polluted. The world will generally be healthier.
Honestly, this isn't that hard. You already know most of it.
You just refuse to do it and when I tell you "Please don't do that" you act like I'm the one being a bitch instead of correcting your gross, disgusting, bad behavior that spreads disease like you worship Nergil.
My qualifications if you absolutely need qualifications to listen to the same shit you have been told five hundred million times by all the health experts on the planet and just chose to ignore:
https://doreenmichele.blogspot.com/2020/02/perspective-and-p...
https://atypicalcysticfibrosis.blogspot.com/p/atypical-cf-de...
I have fantasies I'm going to start a website called Stop Touching Your Face, but the reality is it seems likely that project will be stillborn. Thus, this attempt to say or do something, knowing it will fall on deaf ears, as usual.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...
Wash your hands frequently
Regularly and thoroughly clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.
Why? Washing your hands with soap and water or using alcohol-based hand rub kills viruses that may be on your hands.
Maintain social distancing
Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing.
Why? When someone coughs or sneezes they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus. If you are too close, you can breathe in the droplets, including the COVID-19 virus if the person coughing has the disease.
Avoid touching eyes, nose and mouth
Why? Hands touch many surfaces and can pick up viruses. Once contaminated, hands can transfer the virus to your eyes, nose or mouth. From there, the virus can enter your body and can make you sick.
Practice respiratory hygiene
Make sure you, and the people around you, follow good respiratory hygiene. This means covering your mouth and nose with your bent elbow or tissue when you cough or sneeze. Then dispose of the used tissue immediately.
Why? Droplets spread virus. By following good respiratory hygiene you protect the people around you from viruses such as cold, flu and COVID-19.
If you have fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical care early
Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.
Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on the situation in your area. Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also protect you and help prevent spread of viruses and other infections.
Stay informed and follow advice given by your healthcare provider
Stay informed on the latest developments about COVID-19. Follow advice given by your healthcare provider, your national and local public health authority or your employer on how to protect yourself and others from COVID-19.
Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on whether COVID-19 is spreading in your area. They are best placed to advise on what people in your area should be doing to protect themselves.
These ones:
>> Clean your home.
>> Clean your car.
>> Get rid of your giant pile of junk cluttering up your closets and going unused and rotting in place.
I'm going to leave some semi-random links on stunting and hygiene and I think I shall bow out of this pointless discussion. I suspect the real issue here boils down to tone policing or something similar and has nothing whatsoever to do with actual medical science.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6843659/
http://riceinstitute.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/downlo...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4216152/
https://academic.oup.com/nutritionreviews/article/77/4/240/5...
I do not understand your trouble. This is a serious reply.
You asked which suggestions were ineffective and counterproductive. Your list was interesting but derailed in the end, so I listed the most obvious candidates. This is to help you in case you want to edit your post or make suggestions to friends and family.
Here is an alternative suggestion in case of a "large pile of junk": a strong UV lamp (of the kind that is used with reptiles) should be sufficient to alter the viruses present on the surface, removing any need to touch it.
However, we have limited information about how UV could be helpful at the moment, so it may be better to just spray alcohol on the pile and not touch it.
Much appreciated, thank you.