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Coronavirus: Tesla workers must use PTO to get paid if sick, scared, can't work

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This is 90% of American companies including my company, who is supposed to be "family friendly" company and they care about their employees or whatever. The emails they sent out were so empathetic but the leave policies sure were not.

The fact that in 2020 the USA still refuse to provide for basic welfare is maddening. Sick paid leave is human rights, plain and simple. Nobody should be punished or face economical repercussions due to the fact they are ill; staying home when you have a transmissible disease should be incentivised as much as possible.

I am seeing people post this like it’s strange. I have the same policy where I work. We don’t have sick days. It’s all PTO. Am I missing something here?

Here's what you are missing: the labor laws of your country sucks.

Its because it’s Tesla... for some reason that gets clicks. It’s like how the articles about Foxconn’s suicide nets focused on how Apple used Foxconn while ignoring the other major companies that have stuff manufactured there.

Because people admire Elon Musk, just as they admire Apple. They are held to a higher standard.

I think it's because they are seen as innovators and ahead of the curve, so people look to them for direction.

When it's not found people have to reset their worldview and realize that they were never the priority.

You're missing that this is inhumane; Canada and the EU both have paid sick leave protected by law.

It's ok to be scared, but you have to work.

Or become like the airline industry with total layoffs.

We've sent men to die in war by force. Conscription was in both WW2 and WW2. They were scared to.

For almost all people working age this is just the flu. We have gone to far in the wrong direction on this

You will get it.

Yes you might be scared for the elderly, or you have issues at home, but they will be worse jobless.

Comparing conscription in a world war with building a low-volume electric luxury car is totally ridiculous.

This is not “being scared for the elderly”. Without agressive measures including shutting down non-essential businesses like healthcare, food etc. (which a Tesla car most certainly is NOT) the death count will number in the millions in the United States alone [1]

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/3-charts-that-changed...

This article is about "Tesla employees have to use PTO to get paid if they're staying home"

You are talking about something else. There are hundreds of other threads about government policy,

I am specifically talking about the care of direct relatives, and specifically talking about a persons employment which is what this thread is about.

You say that from the comfort of writing a HN post. Do you have much at stake to make such a condescending suggestion?

I will catch it like everyone else obviously.

It probably will kill someone close to me like everyone else obviously.

I advocate for Tesla not having to fire everyone just because it's just a silly car factory.

What are you advocating for?

If people don't work, they will lay off all of them. This is a 12 month ordeal. Are you from somewhere where fired people have healthcare etc? Because I find that condescending.

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