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I ordered this specific anti-human recognition hoddie, and it actually looks pretty awesome. It really only goes well with black/grey pants, though.

https://www.rageon.com/products/ensemble-7

And Adversarial Fashion's anti-ALPR backpacks are cool looking as well.

https://adversarialfashion.com/collections/bags/products/sta...

Sadly, it's definitely much easier to push out a software update than it is to replace your clothing. But that game of cat and mouse won't start until the clothing becomes more commonplace, which is very doubtful.

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The mostly black backpack makes me wonder if a vantablack-covered tarp poncho would work. Since you should just be a black, featureless blob to a camera there's not much for the NN to latch onto other than outline.

The backpack works because it's not just black and it actually includes some adversarial input ("fake" license plates). A Vantablack poncho wouldn't protect you more than a regular poncho with no distinguishing patterns. The image recognition wouldn't really latch on to creases in your clothes to perform recognition. Your face would still be visible and there's nothing about solid black that further confuses the AI behind the system, there are far better adversarial examples for that.

I wonder if the green traffic lights will make you more susceptible to getting creamed by a self-driving car.

It’s going to make captcha harder

Anti-ALPR patterns really should be using diplomatic plates from the axis of evil countries for extra fun.

Welp, I know what my project will be during the self-quarantine.

https://adversarialfashion.com/pages/diy-resources

What good is an anti-ALPR pattern if you aren't, you know, a car on a road?

It's not to disguise the wearer, it's to feed junk data into any license plate reader that happens to look at you. I don't think it's really useful, but the idea is that if the systems get filled up with enough junk data, it won't be worth it to maintain the systems if they have to sort through a bunch of nonsense every time they want to search for something.

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't they just do an automatic lookup against a nationwide plate db and discard ones that don't match?

How do you distinguish between ones that don't match because they're invalid or ones that don't match because the algorithm didn't properly process the image?

Also, what stops you from using real plate numbers? It's not like they're hard to collect -- unless somebody passes a law against that.

It seems like you could cause some real confusion if you lived near one of these cameras by putting a screen in your window that cycled through random plates. Especially if you run your own ALPR on the street and only use plates that have passed by before.

I wonder what the rules are about displaying license plates on your car. No doubt you're required to display the one issued to the vehicle, but what happens if you also cover the car in pictures of different ones?

For me at least, that first link has some NSFW content. (This is a courtesy notice, not a criticism.)

Specifically, it shows a pair of leggings on a woman designed to look like a naked man titled "David's Marble Legs":

https://www.rageon.com/products/davids-marble-legs?refSrc=43...

Apparently there's a male-clothing version too, but either as underwear or swim trunks: (same NSFW level, sans any model) https://www.rageon.com/products/david-underwear-1?refSrc=487...

I think they're hysterically funny, though I'm having trouble imagining a use case for the leggings.

Clubbing? Throw on a long coat to cover it until you get to the club, then wander around making provocative ironic social commentary without saying a word.

That's all that comes to mind (and isn't an option currently, due to the pandemic).

Oh geez, sorry about that! I can't edit my post to tag it NSFW, but thankfully that product is at the very bottom of the page.

> For me at least, that first link has some NSFW content.

> Specifically, it shows a pair of leggings on a woman designed to look like a naked man titled "David's Marble Legs":

But how is that NSFW? This is one of the most famous sculptures in western art. Everybody has seen it. I had a photo of the David sculpture in the cover of a history book when I was 11, given by our school. I find it very disturbing, even creepy, that somebody may honestly think that this image is NSFW.

imagine you happen to open this page at work while someone walks past your desk. if they say "hey, are you looking at penises at work?" you have the opportunity to explain "no, actually this is a representation of one of the greatest works of western art". more often than not, they will just keep walking and not ask for an explanation. do you really want to be the person they remember this way?

some people just don't want to open a picture of a penis at work (or be surprised by one at home), no matter how artistic. I don't find this disturbing.

Is Michelangelo actually NSFW?

Is anyone actually at work anymore?

> Sadly, it's definitely much easier to push out a software update than it is to replace your clothing.

Depends on the release process.

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