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Classic progressive viewpoint tbh. What matters is if they're passing the purity tests and yelling loudly enough about the problem. If not, burn it down. Who cares about those bothersome things like... the actual outcomes, whether any of this is working, whether living in the real world might require making some compromises and working with other groups.

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well pretty much this, the common view point is the masses are too dumb to make the correct decision and are in need of help/rescue. Sadly this same pattern of though infests the tech community who is so sure of their superior intellect it completely escapes them that other people, usually those in service industries because its obvious no one would willingly choose such, can make good decisions about their own lives.

hence, laws with pretentious sounding names where opponents are shouted down or branded baby killers. seriously, does it ever stop? I have as have others worked more than one job to make ends meet because this is what you do. I decided where to work not the person or company offering the job. If the work conditions were not to my liking I certainly wasn't going to stay there and the same goes for many in similar situations.

"..well pretty much this, the common view point is the masses are too dumb to make the correct decision and are in need of help/rescue." the rallying call of the nanny state

"The left takes its vision seriously — more seriously than it takes the rights of other people. They want to be our shepherds. But that requires us to be sheep." – Thomas Sowell

I'm unwilling to compromise on some policy required to create a quality of life floor for everyone, and no longer willing to be bound by the tyranny of decorum. Zero apologies.

You don't attempt an intelligent and thoughtful debate with a bully. You punch the bully in the face before they punch you. Progressives should've learned to be less polite sooner (the majority of Americans support universal healthcare [1], and those with government provided healthcare are most satisfied [2], the public already supports the policy, its the politicians who stand in the way). Lessons learned from the last half decade of political observations.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/03/most-contin...

[2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/186527/americans-government-hea...

Don't be surprised when the "tyranny of decorum" is brought to bear against you. If you think you're impervious to it, you're foolish.

We should never shy away from opportunities to have our character and fortitude tested. Suffering that can be overcome is crucial for growth as a human.

Sure, you can go around punching everyone in the face pre-emptively. At some point you realize, everyone else has taken their ball and gone home and stopped engaging with you. You have become a bully yourself, and you still didn't get what you wanted.

I really can't think of a more fitting analogy for what has happened with Bernie bros over the past 6 months.

Appreciate the feedback. I’ll keep it in mind as I contribute my time and dollars to the political process.

The quality of life floor is unemployment.

Regulation never raises the floor. It raises the first step. To raise the floor you have to actually provision services.

“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” – Aldous Huxley, Crome Yellow

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