Comment by jfarmer | Hacker News Reader

Comment by jfarmer | Hacker News Reader

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Maybe you're not understanding what I'm saying. If I give you my Facebook credentials and you log on and do stuff on my behalf, that's more than enough grounds for Facebook to delete my account.

This is what happened to Robert Scoble, for example.

There's seems to be an asymmetry, here. All I get out of it is convenience (or am I wrong?). You, on the other hand, get to sniff around my data. On top of all that I'm the one taking all the risk.

Doesn't seem like a very good value proposition to me.

This section in your "privacy policy" doesn't really me eager to jump on board, either: "Atomkeep.com may use personally identifiable information collected through our website to contact Users regarding products and services offered by Atomkeep.com and its trusted affiliates. We may also use information collected through our website for research regarding the effectiveness of the website and the marketing, advertising and sales efforts of Atomkeep.com, and its trusted affiliates."

Oh, ok, so you're going to get me to give you all my data and then you're going to target ads at me. Super-duper.

The convenience is the first step, we've got more in development. Robert Scoble, as far as I recall, was trying to download all his contacts and all their information out of Facebook. And this is a little bit different to what we're doing. From the other side, I can't disagree with you on some of your points.

However, Facebook is not the only one network that we target to.

Thanks.

"Robert Scoble, as far as I recall, was trying to download all his contacts and all their information out of Facebook. And this is a little bit different to what we're doing."

Trust me, Facebook doesn't care. Having me giving your credentials and then logging in on my behalf will get me banned.

"However, Facebook is not the only one network that we target to."

No, but here's a question: of your target audience what percentage have a Facebook account?

Not that it matters. Most social sites (or the smart ones, at least) have a policy against automation. LinkedIn stopped NotchUp using the same rationale, for example.

Can you be forthright? Let's say I sign up to your site and give you my Facebook and LinkedIn credentials. What, exactly, are you going to do with that information?

If I delete my account will all of my information on your servers be deleted? Will you ever send me notifications -- whether via email, IM, InMail, Facebook message, or whatever else -- that contain advertisements targeted based on the data I handed over to you?

If you delete account, it will get purged completely out of servers.

No, we are not sending any kind notifications at this point of time, and we don't plan to include advertisement anyway.

What we actually planning, are new services that you can benefit from, basing on ability to manipulate the data.

In fact, you don't have to give us any credentials to other networks to use our site.

Thanks!

I agree with jfarmer, this is a no-go situation. Imagine I give you all my accounts like FB and G, and then you store it in some unsecure manner and it gets hacked... Or, what if you decide to send spam on my behalf using my accounts. These accounts are too important to take "some" startups word for it.

We do not store anything, but your login. You password is asked only when we do something.

If there is a policy against automation, then every "Autofill" tool available in the browser as plug-in or embedded functionality will violate this policy as well.

It's very imporant to note, that when using Atomkeep - it just gives the same functionality as browser-based "Autofill", but on the Web. There is no any fetching of friends data, photos, e-mails, messages, whatever else. Just the data you have with Atomkeep, and the data you want to change/update.

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