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There is Tildes. It’s open source and non-profit, maintained by donations and has privacy by default. The community is heavily moderated and, while we do have liberty, we do not venerate free speech. There’s a great focus on civility. Most of our users are also on Reddit, and Tildes creator also created Reddit’s /u/automoderator.

Image posts do not exist and we usually prefer medium to long text and videos that are dense with content. It’s not entirely formal though, and there are avenues for conversation and personal expression. The announcing post: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes

Extended docs and the philosophy of Tildes: https://docs.tildes.net/philosophy

Tildes' content is open for anyone to see: https://tildes.net/

We have a subreddit: /r/tildes with a permanent thread for invites and there are invites for everyone.

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> The community is heavily moderated and, while we do have liberty, we do not venerate free speech. There’s a great focus on civility.

If someone made a civil argument with citations, leading to a conclusion you find immoral, but you didn't have the expertise to find errors, would you delete it or leave it up?

I don’t know I’m not a moderator. It’s hard to say without a concrete case, but if such immorality was also against Tildes principles than yes, probably.

Tildes is definitely not a place for free speech absolutists.

Then it's not a place for me. If some claim is true, I want to be able to learn that it's true, no matter whose principles it's against.

Your conclusion is probably correct.

For what it’s worth, Tildes is more free than it seems at a first glance. But we’re determined to not be another victim of the paradox of tolerance.

I haven't been around Tildes in a while, but they are doing the right thing when it comes to producing an alternative to Reddit - which is focusing on building a community rather than focusing on building a platform. After all, if you find Reddit to be terminally flawed, you will not solve those problems simply by duplicating Reddit.

The Tildes founders looked at Reddit, then what happened to Voat and identified the problem as a social one, not a technical one. The problem with Reddit and Voat lies between the keyboard and the chair. This is why they focus on the quality and good faith of the discourse, instead of metrics like growth or mass appeal. They aren't aiming to be a clearing house for all means of social interaction in the way that commercial social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit are.

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