Comment by txcwpalpha | Hacker News Reader

Comment by txcwpalpha | Hacker News Reader

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Yes. Here are some excerpts from the (very minimally descriptive) page:

> Write better. Think more clearly. Get organized.

Totally useless in terms of explaining what the product is.

>A simple, beautiful writing experience, with 30+ types of content to add.

Great, so I can... write things in it? What are these 30 types of content? It doesn't even give examples.

> Turn your tribal knowledge into easy-to-find answers.

How does it do this? No explanation given.

> Kanban boards, tables, lists, and more.

"and more"? And more what? This is what I'm trying to get information on.

> Lightweight and flexible.

Flexible how? This phrase is meaningless to me.

This is one of the more marketing speak ridden websites I've encountered.

If someone made a post on HN asking people to compare and contrast, say, AWS vs Azure, would your response be "just go read the AWS website duh"?

Take a look at the other comments in this thread and ask yourself if the Notion website conveys even half of the insight that the other commenters have provided. Those comments are the entire point of HN, not "just go read the website".

I just read it again and it's true there's a lot of marketing speak, but it seems you've been blinded by it and ignored all of the rest.

It's great to have these questions and insightful answers. The thing is you've said your friend is nuts about it, but apparently haven't bothered to ask them the same questions you're asking here. Not only that, you do seem to be fairly interested in knowing what it's about, but you don't seem to have read anything about it at all, so maybe you could have at least followed the hacker spirit and... I don't know, scanned for the links on the top of the page... and formed a basic opinion?

https://www.notion.so/product

https://www.notion.so/wikis (I've just seen you can even try a live demo without signing up)

https://www.notion.so/projects

https://www.notion.so/notes

(There are more, but I believe you get the idea)

>so maybe you could have at least followed the hacker spirit and... I don't know, scanned for the links on the top of the page... and formed a basic opinion?

or I could ask about it on a forum that is dedicated to discussing topics exactly like this? As you can see, other commenters have given some great insight that is infinitely more helpful than "just go read the website", and is definitely more insightful than the website itself could ever be. I thank them greatly for their insight.

To be clear, I didn't say you shouldn't have asked. I just suggested you inform yourself minimally before you do. I believe this is better for everyone involved, but ymmv.

I feel like you're nit-picking this to depth. Most of the answers you've mentioned may not exist on the homepage but within one click. Under the Product menu, there's a bunch more contextual detail.

I'm not sure why you would expect the main page to list, individually, 30+ types of content. Do you similarly complain that the homepage for Lightroom doesn't say that you can edit the following parameters on an image:

* Lens Correction - Chromatic Aberration, Profile Corrections, Distortion, Vignetting

* Basic - Color Profile, White Balance, Temperature, Tint, Tone, Exposure, Contrast, Highlights, Shadows, Whites, Blacks, Texture, Clarity, Dehaze, Vibrance, Saturation

* Transform - Auto, Guided, Level, Vertical, Full, Rotation, Aspect, Scale, X Offset, Y Offset

* Tone Curve - Regional and Global Highlights, Lights, Darks, Shadows, Point Curves

* HSL / Color - Change hue for Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Aqua, Blue, Purple, Magenta. Change saturation for same. Change Luminance for same.

* Split Toning, Highlights (Hue, Saturation), Shadows (same), balance between two.

* Details: Sharpening (amount, radius, detail, masking), Noise Reduction (luminance, detail, contrast)

... and so on.

Or do you settle for "Wide ranging, comprehensive non-destructive image editing"?

> What are these 30 types of content? It doesn't even give examples.

There are, just off the main page.

I'm just not sure what you're expecting is at all reasonable of any product. The main page draws you in, and the Product page breaks it down by use context. You're certainly entitled to "I don't want to have to go to any additional pages", but that doesn't work for anything more than the simplest products.

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