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Arch is far from minimal. It literally ships systemd, and all kernel options enabled. Not to mention glibc, and a shitton of other crap...

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While I agree that Arch is far from minimal, it is one of the distributions that encourage people to build their system up to meet their needs. This is a far cry from the attention grabbing desktop distributions that may or may not offer a server version that can be built upon (which I, perhaps unfairly, interpret as discouraging the build-up approach).

I disagree. That was true for a time, and i enjoyed it coming from NetBSD. But nowadays, if for any reason you don't want to use systemd, or have different opinions about partioning, e.g. limiting access and execution rights and usage for /var, /tmp you are in for an eternal uphill battle against the decisions of 'upstream' and therefore the 'community' which devoutly adheres to these. There are some derivatives addressing that, but at that point you can also say: "Forget it!"

> [...] have different opinions about partioning, e.g. limiting access and execution rights and usage for /var, /tmp you are in for an eternal uphill battle against the decisions of 'upstream' and therefore the 'community' which devoutly adheres to these. There are some derivatives addressing that

I'm curious about which use cases wasn't supported for you, why it was an uphill battle and which derivative addressed them. I don't quickly see what would give you issues at first glance.

I don't remember exactly anymore, left ship too long ago. But it wasn't about the /usr move.

One derivative would be https://web.obarun.org , another one https://artixlinux.org

Thanks, I think understand the philosophy behind Kiss now. Going to give it a try on VBox.

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