Show HN: Straight2Spam – Send your email right to someone's spam folder
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...Well done.
The only difference is there’s an ad for protonmail at the bottom
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When you send an email, said address is often automatically added to your contact list.
So if you ever a test message the other way around, it will be white listed.
I ended up subscribing to an SMTP service that explicitly masked my home IP as Google's sending service included it and was causing my emails to my bank to automatically get flagged as spam.
EDIT: if you are working from IPs that may not be clean (and in an IPv4 world thats prob true) many DNSBLs will work with you to remove your ip's from their lists if you are actually nice and polite with them. Just check your IP's before your set up your network so they have a heads up that someone will be on the other end of any complaints.
That has always works for me.
And if you get rejected with your first request, pester them with a follow up saying something like "Hey, I'm, a cloud customer. I don't control the whole IP range. I ask you to reconsider the initial rejection."
That's always worked for me with outlook. Takes a few days (which is why I say do it as soon as you know what your IP range is)
Be nice and polite (from what I understand real humans read that request) be honest with what you have done as of time of writing the requyest and what you are planning to do.
But be persistent with them and they will basically grant you a whitelist unless you start fucking up.
I don't care, from my perspective they're irrelevant. The last person I communicated who used their MX died recently, and otherwise ATT can bite me. But in a fit of annoyance several years ago I did configure my servers to deliver a heartfelt custom 550 response to ATT MXes.
EDIT: https://www.att.com/esupport/postmaster/digital-signature/ checked the AT&T support about delievery. Seems like they do use Yahoo these days.
I'm talking about the ones managed by Synacor, formerly managed by an ATT spinoff with a bland name I can't remember. I still have my notebook logging my (lack of) progress, which happened over several years and involved a bunch of entities - partners and internal spinoffs.
Trust me, I know how to google "att email".
EDIT: As a follow up. I used to have contacts with BlueYonder, Sky and BT All ISP's that used to manager their own email systems but outsourced them to gmail and yahoo so my peronsal contacts within those companies for email have died off. It wasn't a slight on you. just one geek to another trying to help.
All I meant is that I spent entirely too much time researching the web of entities supporting the Death Star's SMTP needs through the last decade, who on Linkedin listing those companies might be attached to the production technical team, etc. At some point I started joking that I knew knew more about their corporate structure than anyone not suing them or working in their legal department.
HN discussion from when they downgraded the free tier, includes some discussion of alternatives: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22192543
Link from the email they sent: https://help.mailgun.com/hc/en-us/articles/360048661093-How-...
DigitalOcean, OVH and Hetzner are especially difficult. It is possible to run an email server there, but getting the IP reputation up will be a tedious process and some providers will simply reject sent emails simply for using one of those hosts.
It takes a lot of the legwork out. Obviously you're referring to the likelihood of a major email provider marking you as spam, which is pretty likely if you're sending much volume. But if you have all your ducks in a row, you just might be able to make it work with this.
Been running my own mail server with mailinabox for 2 years and never had issues with spam.
That thing has GTUBE at the end of it, which doesn't look quite as dodgy as EICAR to humans.
lol.
Without the GTUBE string, rspamd scores 10.50, which is flagable by default. With it, rspamd scores 15.0 (ie whatever REJECT is set to) and ignores the rest of the message.
rofl.
the email landed in my inbox.
Note also: dunno about webmail, but e.g. Thunderbird ignores most formatting when displaying a message marked as spam.
Personally I don't have spam folder: either message is rejected immediately at SMTP time, or it goes straight to my inbox. (another thing that annoys me is greylisting, it just breaks instant messaging for no good reason)
If there is a subset of messages for which we can be 100% then these messages don't need to be stored.
That said, I think it's good to keep the "spam" folder. I normally only check it if I learn through another channel that I should have got a mail, I don't "browse it every few days" as some others suggest.
Interesting. My experience has been exactly the opposite. For me, using Gmail is like using Microsoft word in 2007. Slow interface, 34 different navigation menus, emails from friends appear in either promotions or updates at random, spam filter has a false positive once per week.
The only thing missing is the little animated paperclip guy.
Checking the spam folder is useful when you know something should be there. It's not made to skim through the junk in the hopes of finding a mislabeled email. And storage is so cheap nowadays that it doesn't make sense to not store everything to shave a few megabytes of space.
But spam detection is not black and white. The existence of "maybe" spams means that you need to let some through.
Having a separate folder is still useful because you can check it less often, and have no notifications for it. I check mine every couple of days or so. No email is so urgent that I need to see it in 24 hours.