But they're still only delivering a Corolla so you don't have to pay the price of the Ferrari they promised you
I've come across more and more articles about adjunct professors in poverty over the years, so the brilliance (and the brilliants) is definitely missing from the experience.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/it-keeps-you-...
If you read the article, you’ll see that the Universities did give partial refunds. These students are demanding even more refunds, while still collecting the education.
The education is still delivered, just through a different medium. If we believe that engineers can work just as effectively remotely, why can’t we believe that educators and educate just as effectively remotely? It feels like HN is picking and choosing when remote is good vs. bad based on how it personally benefits the commenter.
There’s no reason to pay the sums the universities are charging considering you can get the same education from almost any university.
I think you’re arguing against something other than the Coronavirus and remote education situation at this point.
Also, as the students are going to be home anyway, the differences between universities shrink. If the education is somewhat similar in a university A and university B, but university A is five times more expensive during the normal times, why should the students of university A pay five times as much as the students at the university B. They have lost the reason why they pay so much for it.
1) In a normal situation, some people are equally productive or more productive working remotely, and they should be able to.
2) In the current situation, almost everyone is less productive working from home, because they weren’t prepared and they have to deal with other stresses (family at home, too small of a space, fear of infection, etc.)
3) In the current situation, educators are less able to teach online than they would in person in a normal situation, and similarly students aren’t able to learn as effectively.
It can both be true that working remotely in a normal situation should be an option while this situation makes it harder to get a good education.
It’s fairly elitist to declare that engineers are good at remote work while assuming that students are not.
You can’t make blanket statements about engineers while simultaneously arguing that students are too diverse for the same treatment.