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> Unix is seriously uncool with young people at the moment.

Those damn kids with their loud rockn'roll music and their Windows machines. Back in my day we had he vocal stylings of Dean Martin and the verbal stylings of Linus Torvalds let me tell ya.

Seriously though, I'm actually seeing younger engineers really taking the time to learn how to do shell magic, using vim, etc. It's like the generation of programmers who started up until the late 90s used those by default, people who like me started 15-20 years ago grew up on IDEs and GUIs, but I've seen a lot of 20-30 something devs who are really into the Unix way of doing things. The really cool kids are in fact doing it.

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I guess I am one of the young kids who think the unix command line is wicked cool. It makes the user experience on my laptop feel so much more powerful.

Me too. Especially since I can regularly hit 100 WPM when typing, but I'm a terrible shot with the mouse - not to mention the fact that you can get really nice and satisfying keyboards (I use an IBM Model M at home and a CODE Cherry MX Clear at college) but mice are all kind of the same, and you have to move your hand a lot to get there. On that last point, my mouse hand gets wrist pain consistently way more than my other hand (which I only use for the keyboard) does.

Add to all that the fact that the command line allows for a lot of really easy composition and automation, and it's significantly better for me. I can hardly function on a Windows computer!

Ditto.

For projects where I must work in Windows my secret weapon is WSL + tmux + fish + vim for everything without a strict Visual Studio dependency.

"Millennials Have Ruined GUIs"

hard to get around not using the mouse eventually when looking up docs or copy pasting from browser

Unfortunately. But that's what VI keybindings for the browser are for!

I personally don't mind using the mouse here and there in vim.

Yes, that’s a pain point I haven’t quite cracked.

Copy-paste within tmux works just fine with (a) set -g mouse on in ~/.tmux.conf (b) mouse select to copy and (c) Ctrl + B ] to paste.

Copy-paste from tmux to Windows or vice versa is a pain.

I haven’t tried all the terminals yet but what I need is an iTerm2 [1] for Windows.

[1]: https://iterm2.com

I grew up all-GUI windows kid. I actually had a revulsion to the shell, mostly because it seemed unfriendly and scary. In my early 20s I tried to run Plex on a Windows 7 box and it was miserable. I forced myself to lean by switching to a headless arch linux box.

Giving up the idea that CLI = pain (i.e figuring out how to to navigate a file system, ssh keys, etc) for sure was a learning curve, but now I can't imagine using computers without it.

I guess that's the issue with terminal - the learning curve. I did start with TUIs as a kid before Windows came along, and I remember that feeling when I started using GUIs - "oh, everything has a menu, no need to remember anything, no need to read any docs, it's all just there". That was a real revolution.

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