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Comment by ashtonkem | Hacker News Reader

One of the more funny aspects of human psychology is that when someone perfectly matched their signals to a very specific audience, it looks ridiculous to anyone not a member of the target audience.

Holmes is possibly one of the most perfect example of this. To any non-VC it’s obvious that wearing a black turtleneck is not a necessary precondition to being the next Steve Jobs, but the VC and media commentators fell for it hook line and sinker.

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It has little to do with the turtle neck. Read the book or watch the documentary.

Elizabeth Holmes was born into money. Her family had connections. One of her first investors was a well known VC and neighbor. All you need is a couple of connections like that to get credibility.

The point about it looking ridiculous to outside observers still stands. Connections buy you credibility within the connected groups.

So she could have ripped everyone off including kissinenger with acting ridiculous? She should have saved the act.

You are right: her turtle neck (and fake voice) were both ridiculous.

Elizabeth Holmes was not supported by any well-known VCs.

Which is a great signal by the way in itself.

Jobs never wore a turtleneck, so it’s worse than that. He wore a black low collar long sleeve t-shirt. People can’t even look closely enough to tell if someone is a good copy.

It was often described as a mock turtleneck. Real turtleneck sweaters are... ridiculous.

Real turtlenecks are extremely climate specific. If you’re a north sea fisherman, you’re going to want a real turtleneck. In a climate controlled office? Not so much.

They are comfortable and keep throat warm without me having to bother with scarf. I like to wear them.

Also great when office is overusing climatizstion.

I think turtlenecks are amazing. I am incredibly slender with a long neck and I am almost always cold.

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