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Jira alternatives (ultimate break down) – not biased

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Would say that Jira is oriented to the bureaucrats, the people that gain management and control by moving tickets. The means become the goals, everything is chopped to meaningless small tasks and the language dictates the vision and the capabilities. Negative organisational effect. So better to find an alternatives and avoid Jira if you can.

Yes, it highly depends on your needs

"not biased"

Lists their tool as #1 alternative.

I see your point. But I don't really see the problem with that. I haven't said that #1 is the best. And I haven't also said that Codegiant is better than Jira. If you actually read through the article you'll see that there's nothing biased about it.

Even still, the ordering is a form of bias. It's impossible for someone with a conflict of interest to say they are unbiased.

You're right - in that regard, we may be biased.

My startup is also working on alternative to Jira for anyone interested: https://kitemaker.co

It's really fast and tons of hotkeys and keyboard navigation. No need to use the mouse at all if you don't want to.

Hey, I'd be glad to include your tool in the list during my next update.

That’d be great!

Looks interesting but there’s zero info on your site (at least in mobile) about its features. It looks a lot like Trello from the screenshots. How does it differ?

Yeah, our landing page admittedly needs some love. Actually top of our list right now. And the board does look like Trello but so do most boards (we also have a list view of the issues if you prefer that but it's new so no screenshot on the site just yet).

In terms of differentiating features from Trello:

- we have more structure. We have themes (like Jira epics) and a roadmap view for giving a big picture overview of what's going on. Also software development specific features like effort and impact estimation (small, medium and large aka t-shirt sizes)

- the aforementioned hotkeys and key nav. We love using Superhuman for email and we put a lot of love into making the product keyboard friendly

- our issues are richer than Trello cards. Our document editor feels a lot like Notion documents. We also have threaded comments

- our integrations are getting better all the time. You can mention issues from GitHub and see the commit messages in Kitemaker, you can set up automation rules to automatically move issues in the board. You can embed Figma designs and we're about to launch a Slack integration. And more integrations in the pipeline

It's still a young product, but we're adding features every week and onboarding more and more teams. If people are using Trello or GitHub issues, they can use our importer and try it out quickly with their own data. We'd love to hear any feedback you might have.

Thanks for the info. What search / filter features are available?

Also, what’s the pricing model? And how do I get my data back out?

Search is currently a fuzzy text search on issue titles, labels, etc. Lots of plans to improve it. Filtering is quite full featured. Can filter on labels, assignees, themes, created date, free text etc.

No way to get data out yet (besides asking nicely) but it’s coming. Developer API very soon as well as exporters for every system we have importers for

And... I assume you’ll eventually start charging for it?

Sorry! Missed that part of your question.

There will always be a free tier (mostly likely for 6 users). Then it’ll be something like $10 per user per month which we think is pretty standard in this segment

Thank you!

No ClubHouse?

https://clubhouse.io/

I'll have to update it for sure, there are still some more alternatives to be added

Redmine (redmine.org) seems to be missing from the list

That's true - I'll include it with my next update

Gitlab issue tracker [0] is missing too. A single kanban board comes with the free edition, more advanced issue features [1] are part of the paid versions.

[0] https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/issues/

[1] https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/self-managed/feature-compar...

What about self-hosted jira alternatives?

I've replied in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23584712

I knew it was biased just reading the title. Never heard of codegigant before.

Sorry to hear that it made you think it's biased. As someone working at Codegiant, my is to grow my career/business (like many of you do) that's why I decided to put it on the #1 place - it doesn't mean it's the best in any shape or form. And I haven't said anywhere throughout the article that Codegiant or any other listed tool is better than Jira.

Just don’t call it unbiased & it wouldn’t ring weird. Also listing codegiant first is obvious bias. Useful reading would be comparing your tool to other tools, I’d know where you argue from, and it’d help me figure out your products strength. The way it stands it feels like poorly masked marketing. Possibly that’s not what your going for, but that was my experience.

Got it. Thanks for sharing your insights. Yea, my main intentions were to compare Jira to other tools, as you can probably tell by the headline. Regarding my tool and all of the rest, I've dedicated a pros & cons to each tool section that can hopefully make the strengths and weaknesses of each software clear. But anyway, thanks for sharing your feedback - will make sure future articles don't look biased even though my initial intentions weren't such.

Why doesn’t it include Azure Devops?

Pro tip: you can create a blue and white CSS theme for just about any ticket system, and nobody would know it wasn't JIRA. For example, just install Bugzilla and add 20 lines of CSS.

Even the style on the Bugzilla homepage looks good to me:

https://www.bugzilla.org/

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