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Arguably international adoptions are a good thing, given the proper checks in place to ensure those children aren't adopted into slavery.

There are currently tens of thousands of abandoned children in Romania that nobody wants to adopt. And many of Romania's orphanages are still terrible.

And your last sentence isn't a "fact", but an unsupported allegation. For it to be a fact you'd need actual proof, instead of links from shitty journals.

I'm a Romanian living in Romania btw.

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Can you give me proof that Iliescu called the miners into Bucharest twice after the fall of Ceausescu and beat the shit out of people for the sole reason that they were walking on the streets? What is the proof that you require when we're talking about the current president? What constitutes proof? A conviction in court?...then, Iliescu is innocent even though the common knowledge in this country IS (notice the caps) that he and a few others were responsible for those atrocities in the early 90s.

A mere Google search reveals more than 20 newspapers supporting the claim that he was somewhat involved in shady business with children - heck there are even filmed investigations with multiple people/families claiming on camera that he glued the offer with the demand.

> Can you give me proof that Iliescu called the miners into Bucharest twice after the fall of Ceausescu and beat the shit out of people for the sole reason that they were walking on the streets?

Yes, because he did that on national television, congratulating the miners afterwards for their civic spirit. Really poor analogy btw.

> Really poor analogy btw

I'm not surprised. How about the house he just lost in Brasov's court which concluded it was acquired with fake documents? I know: "Shitty court"

Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence dude, this is obvious. But fact of the matter is you made an allegation that is not supported by evidence.

If we are talking about what constitutes proof, I can tell what isn't proof ... proof isn't a link from a journal guilty of yellow journalism and of spreading false news, that doesn't cite any credible source, an article written just before the presidential elections from 2014, an obvious hit piece.

Don't link to such junk and I won't pick on you for doing so.

I just love it when there is so much crime and corruption in Romania, that people dont argue over complex topics - they argue over who is the least criminal.

That's not what I'm arguing for.

i know - just amazed at the state of affairs. we have to argue over who steals less to the point where romanias president - a proven human trafficker and cheat - is actually decent compared to other candidates.

Nobody argued here about who steals less, and you're offtopic.

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