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I've advocated for this for years to anyone who will listen, but it's like preaching in the desert.

It doesn't help that many people are on laptops, and the war on ports (in general, and ethernet ports in particular) has made wired options exceptionally inconvenient. Not only you have to go out of your way to buy extra hubs and adapters that are not included with the laptop, you then have to carry a bag full of dongles everywhere.

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I only miss is 8P8C port, but only when I'm traveling and want wired connection.

USB C made my life easier. Now I only have to plug one cable into my laptop from my monitor and have everything(wired network, external display, speaker, webcam, microphone, keyboard and mouse).

I don't see a reason to carry a dock with me. A lot of people carrying a Micro USB A to USB A cable and a dock instead buying a Micro USB A to USB C cable which makes no sense

Honestly, I hate USB-C. It's flimsy as all get-out. All the USB-C stuff I have seems to maintain a poor connection when moved, and it doesn't feel anywhere near as sturdy as a plain-old USB A. When I'm using a laptop, I want something I can leave plugged in when I pick up and move the computer and not lose connection when jiggled. They should have made something that valued a sturdy, stable connection over slimness.

Well, a bigger connector likely wouldn't work for phones then, would it?

As far as I can tell, phones are the #1 thing people are plugging in and out these days.

No, it wouldn't, but I honestly couldn't care less about phones. It makes absolutely no sense to attempt to design a port that is good for both delivering power to tiny devices and also good for transferring forty gigabits per second of data, all while being durable and maintaining a good connection.

Well, the whole point of the movement was to make one connector be the standard for most everything. The general populace is much more upset with having to keep a bunch of different connectors around. It's much easier for them if they can just have one connector to deal with.

It'd be nice for me too. I wouldn't have to keep an entire drawer full of various cables...

You should feel a distinct click when you plug in your connector. I never had any problem with my laptop.

What you described can be caused by lint inside your USB-C port. I had this problem only with my phone. Try to get it out with a toothpick.

I appreciate the help, though I've looked inside my ports before and found neither dust nor lint. The problem seems to be mostly with cheaper stuff. I've mentioned this to USB-C enthusiasts before and gotten back, "Well, just by better-quality stuff." The difference is, I never had any problem with the connection on cheap USB-A devices. If the connector seemingly can't be made both cheaply and well, that is a huge flaw with the standard and means it ought to be abandoned wholesale.

Apple should provide a free dongle purse with a purchase of a new laptop.

Geeks: We want Apple to stop using proprietary ports and standards.

Apple: okay here is a laptop that has standard USB-C ports.

Geeks: we have to use dongles to support the standard.

False dichotomy. They could have multiple ports supporting multiple standards. This dismisses a valid complaint, in my opinion, the war on ports in the name of thinness. I've never heard anyone cite thinness as the reason they bought a device (weight, sometimes, but never thinness.)

So how many “standards” should they implement when usb-c is versatile? Should they include VGA ports like some corporate laptops?

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