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It’s pretty clear this is from a lab. A number of well known scientists have said so, including the guy who got a Nobel prize for working on hiv has said so.

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I heard the opposite. Sources?

Im too busy to lay it all out, but at this point it’s not really a conspiracy theory. There are arguments it’s not from a lab.

Presumably this is the Nobel prize laureate: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier. (Personally, I find it unconvincing.)

Montagnier's "proof" is a questionable paper (that has not his name on it, though) that does "decomposing" on the RNA of the viruses with a mathematical transformation that has no biological sense, and by using "patterns" and "waves" "deduces" that there must be something from HIV.

I've read it. It's embarassing on how bad it is written, and the mental gymnastics it uses to "explain" things.

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