yes exactly plus there are some things not about the language itself but the whole foundation backing it up, it lacks marketing and advocacy. It looks appealing but given that lack of marketing and popularity, it needs to have A LOT OF advantages to still be considered a contender in mainstream production environments which it fails to achieve since it doesn't really have a whole lot of advantages to it ( I'm just saying there aren't as many to back up for the flaws of it's foundation ). Hence, I don't dislike Nim at all but I don't find it good either, I find it alright.