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London is notorious for low SWEng salaries; you might not have any other choice than to contract somebody in Ukraine who didn't escape somewhere else if your own employees get higher paid remote gigs in the US...

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> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries

I was actually going to challenge this before I did a bit of research and discovered you're right - the average wage for a software engineer is £47,500 (https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary). That's ugly.

I'm from Liverpool originally (live abroad now) and I have friends in Manchester earning £50-60k... in the North of England. That's a big wage in that area.

That's for IT though? Software engineer average is £72500 based on your link

Anecdotally, the one senior dev we have on my team from London makes mid/upper 40s. I was astounded when I found that out.

Yeah, even both Google and FB pay engineers pretty terribly in London. I was once asked to move there, and I refused unless they accounted for cost of living changes. They didn't, so I stayed working at my original office.

The stat you link appears to be for "IT" jobs across all of the UK. Restricting the search to "Software Engineer" and "London"[0] bumps the number up quite a bit to £72,500 as of when I checked.

[0]: https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-eng...

That's a good catch. I hadn't realised it was targeting the country because I specifically searched for London. Silly me.

72k in London isn't a lot :)

> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries

With the banks and big tech, I'm pretty sure it has the highest paying SWE salaries in Europe.

Facebook London rarely gives 100k+ base. Compare that to SFBA.

I would have said 90-100 at E5, right? The stock grants are pretty terrible too (relative to the Bay Area, at least).

That's Zurich

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