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I can tell you one kind of content that can get someone banned from Facebook: pro-China content. Even if someone genuinely believes that being pro-China is right, and that that person is not a bot.

> The level of association is pretty clear, unless you have no knowledge on how large companies operates in China.

> No, I'm only against the CCP, maybe one day the Chinese people will have the government they deserve.

This looks like a huge contradiction to me. "Private companies in China have to follow Chinese law, so private Chinese companies are associated with CCP, so we should ban private Chinese companies, but I'm only against CCP".

Imagine someone disagreeing with PRISM, and making the same statement as above, but substituting "CCP" with "American government".

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I dont have any friends who are pro china on Facebook so I cant prove/disprove but I see plenty of pro china content on hacker news. None of it is being actively scrubbed by the US Government. This is the big difference between operating in China vs United States.

> I can tell you one kind of content that can get someone banned from Facebook: pro-China content. Even if someone genuinely believes that being pro-China is right, and that that person is not a bot.

I don't see how you came to that conclusion. CGTN is still there on Facebook for example. They weren't even kicked out despite blatantly faking their subscribers count (yeah it's that obvious).

> This looks like a huge contradiction to me. "Private companies in China have to follow Chinese law, so private Chinese companies are associated with CCP, so we should ban private Chinese companies, but I'm only against CCP".

In China, if you did not know, there is no rule of law, the CCP is the law. Any large companies needs to have a CCP representative. There is no independent large company in China, that's not a thing yet.

> Imagine someone disagreeing with PRISM, and making the same statement as above, but substituting "CCP" with "American government".

The problem isn't just the data, it's the propaganda and the reach of the CCP.

>> Imagine someone disagreeing with PRISM, and making the same statement as above, but substituting "CCP" with "American government".

> The problem isn't just the data, it's the propaganda and the reach of the CCP.

The problem is the method by which each entity might effect their goals.

In the US: Go to FISA/FISC and request a warrant. Otherwise, request a surveillance warrant in normal court.

In China: Go to the company in the dead of night, and tell them what they need to do.

In the former, you at least have a paper trail. In the latter, you have nothing.

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