>degenerate activism
What's this in reference to, specifically?
What's this in reference to, specifically?
Edit: interesting that there are so many downvotes. Consider yourself lucky that this seems absurd to you, because it's borrowed directly from Nazi "degenerate art" and "degenerate music" and used like this almost exclusively in modern alt-right contexts to mean those falling outside of their ideal (bigoted) worldview.
Obviously the GP should have ommitted that flamebait (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24160738), but a comment like yours also breaks the site guidelines—specifically this one: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
Going straight to Nazis is one habit that rule is intended to check. It leads to extremely predictable discussion that inevitably gets nasty because that's the only way for it not to be boring (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).
As you said elsewhere it was not necessary for the commenter to use the word degenerate. I don't think anybody should be surprised by the reactions to it. It's entirely reasonable to criticize Mozilla's activist focus, or what went down with Eich, without stooping to that kind of language.
It's not "absolutely clear what the commenter meant", and that is the problem. Internet users are a thousand times too quick to assume they know "absolutely" what "the commenter meant" and then react reflexively to it. This is how the internet becomes optimized for outrage. That's why we have that guideline, and commenters here need to follow it. Note this guideline also: "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Edit: I'd like to add some positive thoughts. This is off topic, sorry, but it's been a while.
Edit 2: I'm going to move them to a reply so I can link to it later.
The second stage is to use your reflective capacity—which is slower and calmer—to look at the comment from multiple angles and ask yourself things that there wasn't time for before: what other interpretations might there be? am I sure that what I feel I'm seeing is actually here? do I really need to react this way / post like this? what effect is my post going to have on the thread [1]? is there a different way to relate to this person? who do I really want to be, in this context? what community do I really want to be part of?
The reason this is better is not because it produces any particular content. People sometimes misunderstand that and assume that we're telling everyone to always be civil, constrained, etc.—but that's not it. Rather, it's because it's the only way to make discussions not be predictable. If we're all reacting with cached threat-responses, the only thing we can do is fight the same battles we've all been fighting for a long time. Since HN is a site for curiosity and curiosity withers under repetition [2], finding ways to escape the predictable [3] and make new moves in the dance is a must.
Past thoughts here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
In-context, it's clear what degenerate meant.
Right now on the right, it's used to refer to behavior and culture that is really abhorrent. That's at least my take on it, and how I use the term personally. 99% of the time the usage of the term is definitely not about race and eugenics which is what you're implying with the Nazi reference. I leave 1% because I don't preclude possibility of the rare existence of real race-supremacists in the world.
E.g. Misogynistic & violence-promoting "gangster rap" music, tik-tok trends that sexualize minors, and a bunch of other related things. These are things that if we take a step back and think about it, we realize that they're actually move society backward instead of forward. And we're all collectively jumping through mental hoops to claim otherwise because it's uncomfortable, unpalatable and scary to call out such bad behavior in a public forum.
However, I think your estimate of 1% is far too low. Hang around in seedy Discord chats, IRC channels, or Facebook groups (or on second though maybe don't... it's an interesting but inadvisable hobby.), and you'll see "degenerate" thrown around as a synonym for "Jew", "Muslim", "homosexual", "transexual" constantly. These usages are fully normalized, even among those who aren't professed neo-nazis but just identify as alt-right and trade in crusader and viking memes and spam "DEUS VULT" in chat.
The adoption of the traits of the crypto- prefix (you can infer what the suffix that usually goes with is...) are a defining characteristic of the modern internet right. They are very savvy to what they can or cannot say in "polite company" or in public, and will deliberately muddy words with multiple connotations (because the in-group can distinguish which is being connoted by context, even if you can't).
In a high visibility context you'll get "it was just a joke bro" or "I just meant like gangster rap and sexualizing minors, do you have a problem with that?". But as soon as they return to more insular spaces, "degenerate" is common currency for referring to races, religions, and sexualities seemed inferior.
It's become so normal that every other thread here will refer to "degenerates" or similar terrible terms for political opponents, and sadly the moderators seem to think this is normal as well.
If you're slightly to the left of Hitler and live in the US, you should arm yourself now, before it's too late.