My best SEO tactic so far
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My much larger site 10-15 years ago was primarily about language learning. It had some fairly niche topics I was concerned that virtually no English-language speakers would be looking for, and yet the traffic rolled in. It was a blog, though. Also, some of those topics became more popular over time. Extensive Reading and Spaced Repetition were two examples.
My current site is in my profile and it's pretty tightly focused around Elixir (roughly the 50th most popular programming language).
This is one reason why you'll see a page with one topic as a title often branch off to cover many related but sort of unexpected topics throughout the page - it's to cover the main keyword but also grab coverage on the related ones that might be easier to rank for (by simply mentioning it in a page vs. dedicating a page to it). As the owner of that site, you might see that one of these pages could be getting traffic from hundreds of keywords, and 10 of them are on a distinct enough topic that warrants another page. So you build a page for that, etc.
Many (most?) tech companies fill their sites with low-quality, jargon-filled pages that don't actually answer questions - either becuase they're written by marketers with a poor grasp of the technology, or because they don't want to 'give away' their expertise.
If you actually answer the question in a reasonably full way, there is nothing to stop you ranking highly. Google values valuable content.
As a concrete example, I found a grey area way to get a somewhat popular hardware tinkerer interested in something I did. Maybe I even skirted the rules a bit by sending him a free sample of my cool toy and some rough code samples. He took it well beyond what I could. I didn't ask for anything. The investment paid off. Aside from his initial blog post, others took inspiration and posted their own variations.
Google now thinks I'm the bomb for something very niche, but reasonably profitable. Likely because my efforts, plus other's work, netted some interesting backlinks. and backlinks to their posts. And maybe I am a badass in this very narrow niche, but I doubt Google would know if I hadn't pushed the envelope a little.
Is that so? I thought conventional wisdom is that they now have much stronger signals about how well results satisfy queries, from Google Analytics and Chrome.
Provide genuine value to people making web searches. Google will keep updating their algorithms to make searches result in better results for people.
“Tricks” can sometimes make you rank quickly, but building genuinely valuable content is the best long term strategy. (And I acknowledge that not everybody is looking for long term value from sites they build, which means they shouldn’t follow that advice. If you are trying to rank a site for a one off event, for example, where you really don’t care about search traffic in 12/18/60 months time, your site will end up looking a lot closer to SEO-spam de jour.)
I then sent several folks a free sample of a thing, and also rough code, that costs me $100 or so.
And the gamble paid off. One of them ran off with it. It benefitted them pretty much zero as far as I know.
I totally gamed the system. It was not natural in any sense. I got ~3000 sales, and maybe $10k of upside, which was disproportionately in my favor. Most of the magic was this person's fruitful efforts to take my rough idea into something popular. But I like to selfishly think nobody really "lost" in this little microcosm.
Google has posted a warning on their Webmaster Blog about providing free review samples, they will take action against companies that do it:
"Bloggers should use the nofollow tag on all such links because these links didn’t come about organically (i.e., the links wouldn’t exist if the company hadn’t offered to provide a free good or service in exchange for a link)."
https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2016/03/best-practices-for...
"Maybe I even skirted the rules a bit by sending him a free sample of my cool toy and some rough code samples. He took it well beyond what I could. I didn't ask for anything."
Certainly seems easy enough to argue complies with:
"send bloggers free products to review or give away in return for a mention in a blogpost"
If you don't ask for mentions in blogs, that Webmaster Blog post doesn't technically apply, right? There's gray area in choosing to send free samples to people you are pretty sure will mention/link to you in a blog post, but where you don't ask them to (or place any expectation on them to). So "skirting the rules a bit" sounds about right to me. There weren't "review units", they were "free gifts". No request or expectation of a "review".
That said, as far as ethics & free gifts, this is why politicians, journalists and businesses usually have rules about accepting free gifts, often requiring them to return the gifts or give them to charity instead.
Here's a post on Journalism Ethics relating to accepting free gifts:
https://ethics.journalists.org/topics/gifts-free-travel-and-...
They got attention as well. They may well be the center of the attention for your product now, with people with questions asking them or their community first.
The trade you entered is quite common with reviewers nowadays.
That "buying links" is the only deadly sin next to cloaking is more strong evidence for Google primarily relying on it. You don't get penalized for abusing Microdata, stuffing Emjois into your Title + Description or writing barely readable keyword-stuffed SEO texts, but get links from a well-known link-selling-site and watch your -100 penalty wreck your traffic.
Do you have any official source for this? I remember they clearly saying that Google Analytics data is not used and will not be used for search in any way.
Perhaps it is more of a grey area. Probably not so much the whole Show HN thing, more of the hustle seen in the comments.
Usually you see someone comment on a post about some tech by saying "I am with X company and we are working on Y to solve this problem!".
Personally, I think this stuff is great. You gotta respect the hustle.
The productive thing to do for that site to write Elixir tutorials or at the very least, write about things Elixir devs are looking for—instead of content marketing strategies—and to put it on the same site! Here's an example of piece I wrote which did move the needle a bit on the business side: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20721433
So why am I writing "meta" stuff on a totally new blog and submitting it here instead of putting all my time into the business site? Here's my best understanding of my motivations:
1) Internet points are fun! Not something I feel should be a major motivator, but it is what it is.
2) Increase my luck surface area. Who knows what opportunity could emerge or who I can meet, just because I do things and write about them?
3) Provoke discussion and maybe learn more about the topics I'm writing about and thinking about from all of you! Lammy and TeMPOraL have each already given me an idea in this thread.
4) Generate some level of goodwill from people who have found my writing useful or interesting. It's difficult to quantify the effect, but I believe that it will translate into more help, retweets, etc for my projects in the long run.
Almost all people are producing content for a company, product etc in which they are not the target customer and hence are not doing searches for.
It would have been useful had they explained how to methodically discover long tail keywords that aren't being satisfied with good content for any subject.
It's just a pet project, but it's consistently in the top 5 of any given relevant search phrase.
I answered a fairly simple question on Stackoverflow many years ago that has a bunch of upvotes, and still generates a few dozen a week.
I didn’t do anything magical, just wrote a response in a way that resonates with people. I have not repeated that feat either, so I possess no unusual skill. If you write every day, you’ll do the same thing eventually with something.
Sometimes I think I should have made a blog and added some pics. Then those upvotes might have been ad revenue.
The problem with this approach is that it only works if you want to create content for the things you searched for. Just because I'm googling obscure shit doesn't mean I want to write an article with ads about it. I could see this technique work for someone who wants to start a technical blog -- make your posts the first result on a bunch of obscure issues you run into.
I'd say the question is, "Do your in-depth searches cluster around a general topic?"
Then create content that addresses these pain points very specifically.
SEOs tend to get blinded by search metrics and keyword data. There are countless long tail queries that might show negligible results in your keyword tool, but are very pertinent to your target market.
You won't get much traffic from such "pain point SEO", but whatever queries do come your way will be highly targeted.
In general, unless you rely on ad revenue, you should never use traffic as a success metric for SEO. It tends to blind your decision making. I've ranked for a single keyword that got me 80k visitors a month, but I've made more money from keywords that got me 10 visitors a month.
(I could probably write some of those stuff on my personal blog, but SO has an added advantage of soliciting comments and alternative answers; people on blogs are less keen to do that IMO).
Fun fact: when I was interviewing for my last job, I got stuck on an unexpected issue when coding. I could use google, and found my gist from few years before with similar problem which got me unstuck (I totally forgot about having it written) as #1 item in Google.
IME, SO and gist index really well in Google and often end in top of results. HN, less do (unless you explicitly put hackernews or site:... in query).
But then one day I figured that me wasting the time to find an answer might be something that's affecting other people as well, so I did a couple experiments. My entire blog is now mostly a bunch of solution posts to various issues I encountered (I know, not very sexy). The most popular one by far is https://dragoshmocrii.com/ubuntu-20-04-stuttering-animations... which brings in tens of people everyday (not that much, but still). Initially, I just posted the solution, but then I wanted to see what people actually thought about it, so I encouraged them to drop me a comment if the solution did help them. So people started to reply, and it's a great feeling to see I could save people time!
One might wonder, why not use a better place to post a solution, such as Stack Exchange websites. And the answer is why not keep it on my website and build some reputation for myself, who knows who stumbles upon my solution post, and invites me to apply for a great job! ;)
I might start doing it - instead of trying to think of large topics to write, just describe results of any research I needed to do where I had trouble finding reasonable answers. Not for fame or SEO - but as a service to random strangers. Judging by unending stream of searches for over 10 years, I suspect that this post about keyboard layouts/language switch is the single most useful thing I've done in my entire life.
(As context for non-Americans: language & keyboard layout switches are all too easy to hit by accident, and suddenly your keyboard "isn't typing" some characters, or swaps Z and Y, or whatnot. This doesn't go away on restart (or at least it didn't use to), and completely confuses regular people, making them think their computer is broken. Those non-tech-savvy people usually resort to manually copy-pasting problematic characters from a file or from a website whenever they want to type them. You can imagine the impact on productivity and sanity, particularly at work.)
(And I just can't fathom how this is still a problem in 2020. Microsoft, WTF?)
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[0] - I don't use Analytics or any other tracking script on my site. Search Console gives you access to data on performance of your site on Google's search engine, and includes the only two things I ever cared about wrt. any analytics - how do people end up on my site, and what posts do they visit.)
I ended up disliking all the software I found and wrote my own (as one does), but then when it came time for a README i made sure to use all those terms and even provide links to the other projects I found in case those links help somebody who ends up preferring one of them to mine: https://github.com/okeeblow/DistorteD
The HTML5 <picture> tag makes that variation a lot more relevant. The "photo" people are also implicitly talking about art direction! Photos are almost always a "page content" thing, then I see people talk about generating "images" and "pictures" for their website's pixel-perfect UI/navigation/logo needs.
About two years ago I started writing specific technical posts that I had to piece together from various sources. Although it's primarily for my own selfish reasons to reference later, I've seen quite a lot of traffic from folks who are trying to find the same solutions. Not too unsurprising, the key here seems to be the more niche a post, the better it performs compared to posts that cover broader topics.
Thanks! The idea of just being helpful on the internet is vastly undervalued.
Since this specific tactic is about avoiding competition, it does pretty much always lead to something very niche, very new—either in content or the audience/approach to the content.
Larger topics are often worth going after or necessary for a larger site, but then you have more authority and more resources to do so.
I guess the next question is, how does one create a way to reliably generate these kinds of "itch scratching" type queries on a regular basis?
My immediate guess would be to just be building something within your niche that you find interesting. And the ideas would come as a by-product of that.
So this definitely works best for builders. Those who are just focused on content creation and not building may have a pretty tough time using this strategy, due to lack of ideas.
Something I enjoy about having been around since the beginning of the internet, is to watch the cyclical nature of information and how each new generation "discovers" bits and pieces from the past.
I could take the "get off my lawn" stance and just complain that "kids these days" don't understand logic gates or finite state machines, so what business do they have messing about with promises and javascript. But it's genuinely enlightening to see new approaches to old problems. Having an open mind was easy when I was young. Nowadays it can actually take effort to do so.
However, this one sits firmly in "duh! Wasn't it obvious?" territory with me. But I mean that in a nice way :)
This is the content is king mantra. Ideal SEO is the point that delivers the best results with the fewest consequences. That’s a subjective rule, so it’s hard to say creating content works for everyone.
Point of saying this is you should strive to appease search engines by creating useful content, but the real world is messy. Some industries need to bend the rules to survive.
[1]: https://notgpt.com/2020/08/15/life-is-like-a-blockchain/
I guess yours is more profitable.
But all these approaches end up helping others, regardless of who gets to make some money out of it.
Not everything that scores highly would produce revenue on blog though.
Looks like his tactic worked ;)
I wonder if the overall quality of Google search would improve significantly if, for some topics where timeliness is important, they ranked things more heavily by date, emphasizing recent results. This would probably have a decent impact on some technical searches, but I wonder how wide the applicability would be.
The issue with this search is no one would normally search for “my best seo tactic”
It's the strategy used by literally ever beginner blogger I've come across. Not saying it's bad but I'm not sure why there's a whole article about it.
I suspect this is rare.