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Pedot can make our bodies play nice with implanted electronics

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This is blogspam from https://www.inverse.com/innovation/integrating-electronics-w...

The source article has more useful info and actually defines "PEDOT":

> The polymer coating is technically called poly(3,4-ethylenedioxythiophene), or PEDOT. It is both electrically and ionically active, which the authors explain helps lower its impedance (aka its opposition to flowing electric charge) by three to four orders of magnitude compared to electronics without this coating.

> Researchers can effectively add any peptides, antibodies, or even DNA they want to these modified PEDOTs, Martin explains.

> "Our materials are intended to bridge the gap between the inert, rigid, solid, abiotic engineered device and the living, soft, wet, biotic tissue."

Wow, I love how the science fiction I read as a child is becoming reality.

This was a major part of the worldbuilding behind in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which came out back in 2011.

Now I'm curious what papers Eidos Montreal's writers were working from when they wrote it...

Somewhat different, as Neuropozyne was an immunosuppressant that needed to be taken regularly, and this is a (theoretically) permanent coating on the implant.

There was specific mention made of PEDOT's use being a major and necessary step in making augmentations possible, specifically because it is a conductive and biocompatible polymer. For example: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Neural_Interface_Protocols:_T...

Huh! I stand happily corrected. I must not have brushed past that piece of in-game lore.

I recall it being fairly easy to miss!

There was quite a bit of lore in that game. You could do a fair bit of reading if you cared enough.

Just as with its predecessor. Granted, I collected conspiracy theories in high school so DX had nothing novel for me in that regard, but it was still a lot of fun to laugh and nod along.

I noticed that too, having recently re-played that game. I never would have thought that was based on actual scientific research.

Nor I! And now I'm wondering, if a game design studio knew about this stuff a decade ago, why are we now seeing it presented as a revolutionary new breakthrough?

I wonder if the possibility was recognized a while back, and what's new is an apparently significant step toward realization, while we're only seeing the use of PEDOT in implants presented as a totally new concept because we're seeing it refracted through the rather cracked and dirty lens of popular science reporting.

That's close to my thinking. I doubt the researchers came up with PEDOT out of nothing, or maybe they did and they're rediscovering some ideas. Perhaps it was considered a more fringe or exploratory idea to use PEDOT back in the 2000s, so it didn't attract much funding, but the writers for Deus Ex found some papers and thought it would make for good sci-fi. And it has, since we're seeing an article today on it's viability.

ha, first thing that sprung to my mind immediately was "PEDOT clusters, I've heard that before". One of my favourite games of all time.

Also very crazy when you go and read all the ebooks on future political conflict there's some scary accurate ones in there about rise of terrorism in the ME, secessionism and polarisation in the US and wildfires ravaging Australia

https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Politics_Review_(2026_...

Report it after ten years of human trials........

Or just make unlucky people buy neuropozyne

It's a reference to a fictional drug from futuristic science fiction where neuripozyne needs to be taken regularly to avoid rejection of implanted augmentations

It is apparently not enough that the Machine got unfettered access to every single aspect of our private lives - we should merge and become one with Her.

Hey, I'm down to be Root. If I can come out with Amy Acker's looks and figure, well, that's just a bonus.

I'll only put any tech in my body if it is 100% open source, hardware and software and I'm allowed to tinker with it.

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