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Comment by zanny | Hacker News Reader

Matrix has comprehensive encryption now and is decentralized.

The comprehensive encryption is still not something everyone was bumped into. There's still insecure rooms, there's still backwards compatibility with insecure rooms. There's still bots and bridges and all the possible things to break the E2EE. Matrix just isn't on par security-wise when compared to Signal. The freedom starts to matter once everything in Matrix ecosystem is always E2EE with no fallback options.

Matrix really does seem like the ideal future platform to build on, I've started poking around it and really like what I see. Does anyone with more experience want to chime in on what they've found using it?

It has the best protocol I'd say, but other than that everything else is worse.

All the clients suck, features are missing/buggy, nobody is sure if it is supposed to be a discord/slack or whataspp replacement, giving a half-ass implementation of both, and confusing to users security stuff(asks random users about their keys).

That being said, I still love the project and hope they sort out their UX problems.

I really like the idea of Matrix, but in practice I don't have anyone to use it with. At least with Signal the on-boarding experience is super low friction, so I can just tell someone "message me on Signal" and they'll figure it out.

Matrix on-boarding is more complicated and would probably require hand holding through which client and server to use.

I don't think matrix can scale to hundreds of thousands of users in one channel at the moment.

@nexta_live, the main channel for Belarusian protesters has well over 2 mln subscribers.

and federated, and way better for group chats, and actually cross-platform

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