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> Look at the wealth, convenience, leisure and abundance all around you. Even people with lower income experience high standards of living. The system we have now is not without fault, but it has done better than any other before in meeting our needs and desires.

You should spend some time in Appalachia if you think that's true.

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You are making a logical fallacy and I don't think it's worth my time to actually attempt to discuss this with you.

There's nothing to discuss because you don't really have much of an argument. "Look around. Things are better than what they were" doesn't negate the fact that market forces are bad at distributing resources. You can look at the COVID-19 crisis as well. "Market forces" led to distribution channels with no redundancy, leaving the United States with a shortage of something super basic: PPE.

You continue to state that market forces are bad, while not paying any attention to the counterargument that they are pretty good compared to the alternatives. Making an honest comparison would be a much tedious discussion.

I'm not saying market forces are categorically bad. I'm saying they're bad at some things. Market forces are terrible at distributing housing, healthcare, and primary education. As with most things, there's a happy medium between unfettered market forces and central planning.

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