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My guesstimate is Nick Szabo.

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If you look at Szabo's twitter feed these days, I surely hope he isn't.

Luckily, there is not that much that points towards him being Satoshi:

https://archive.is/N3rYx

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2018/12/16/no-nick-szab...

His twitter feed is very libertarian and Austrian economics themed. That doesn’t surprise me at all, should it?

He says he hopes it isn't him, not that it lends evidence against it.

I understand but that’s a strange hope a bit based on his twitter bring too right-wing or libertarian than he would prefer, yet those beliefs are actually very consistent with a lot of Satoshi’s known leanings and beliefs. The block zero comment is pretty libertarian for example and many of his comments on email lists are also. So it’s a bit illogical for the OP to hope for otherwise.

I'm a libertarian Bitcoiner myself, and I hope it's not Szabo.

You can be right libertarian without being a xenophobe or an outright racist.

I guess I missed the xenophobia and racism in his twitter feed. That wouldn’t surprise me however I’m just not sure what you are referring to specifically.

you can also be right libertarian without demeaning others with modern-day heresy accusations

Expecting Satoshi not to be libertarian is like expecting Karl Marx not to be socialist. Satoshi devoted his life to creating uncensorable money outside of government control!

>Karl Marx not to be socialist

He was not a socialist, he was a Marxist. It's like expecting that Windows and Linux are Operating-systems and by that completely the same.

On what basis are you making this claim? Karl Marx often called himself a socialist but he explicitly denied being a Marxist.

Fascism != libertarianism

It mystifies me how /pol ideology gets called libertarian. I remember when words meant things.

Libertarian? He has the Blue Lives Matter flag as his header.

In the 1970s there were lots of libertarians that were marxists or socialists, they saw no conflict in the terms because libertarian is such a loosely defined term that it can encompass almost anything you care to stuff into it. Even today libertarianism has no strict prescription, the political movement takes all manner of refugee into it. In discussions I routinely run across libertarians that believe in fully functional centralized government judicial and policing systems; on the flip side, I also run across libertarians that are more of the anarchy wing and believe in private police systems.

What does liberty mean to you? That's all libertarianism actually is, and that has always plagued the movement.

If forcibly implemented marxism means liberty or freedom to you, good enough, you can call yourself a libertarian now if you see fit. The Hayek wing will always disagree with that, however their disagreement is also entirely irrelevant as they don't have much control over the term or the movement.

Well, that shouldn't be that surprising since the term was Socialist in its beginning before the current US right-wing tendencies co-opted it to mean Propertarianism.

> hope he isn't

You wish he was more like you?

This is a good reason why he hid his identity. Any real person would be more disappointing then the legend constructed in imagination.

Yes, there's not much that can destroy a legend easier than meeting them in person.

But it in this case, the legend was a rather nice person. Getting this aspect of his personality destroyed would be a shame.

Is he mean? Or do associate those views with mean people.

I just don't understand why everyone needs to be a PR polished suit. These people work on computers, not administer public policy. We can appreciate their contributions and ignore their quirks or the fact they don't have all the popular opinions.

It's the other way around. Just because somebody is good in one area that doesn't mean they have any authority in another, unrelated one.

Putting people on a podest and excusing untolerable behavior is plain toxic.

It is not wanting that everyone needs to be a PR polished suit, just wanting that people are decent human beings.

> Just because somebody is good in one area that doesn't mean they have any authority in another

Precisely what I am saying. We can applaud Nick for contributions to cryptography without importing his views of other things. We don't have to weigh his political opinions at all.

> just wanting that people are decent human beings.

This sounds to me like "having views I like, because only undecent people would think otherwise". Do you have an instance of Nick being nasty or indecent?

> This sounds to me like "having views I like, because only undecent people would think otherwise".

Yeah, that's a sentiment you hear a lot in political discourse these days. But if you follow cryptocurrencies, you wouldn't get far with this attitude. The combination of technological, financial, and political issues that make up this field draw a lot of different people to it. Including a lot of wackos, often even with a cult following. So you need to have a good filter to find the interesting stuff.

But I followed him long enough to notice that there is no interesting stuff anymore and some of his content was showing uncomfortable character traits to me, so I unfollowed.

> Do you have an instance of Nick being nasty or indecent?

This Twitter thread by somebody else is a good start.

https://twitter.com/OneAdamReese/status/1270108913111691264

The intent of that thread is to peer into his tweets to associate him with an untouchable "white supremacist", as opposed to any particular wrong doing. That's not even a description, it's just a reason to dehumanize someone.

> so I unfollowed.

I completely encourage that.

I'm not asking for his political views to be platformed, just that we treat them separately. In other words, it's not in bad taste to respect Nick for a Bitcoin opinion, even if what else he has going on we believe or even know to be incorrect.

Maybe it's to throw off people...

>If you look at Szabo's twitter feed these days, I surely hope he isn't.

I just glanced at it and it looks innocuously right wing. In the context of being contender for the creator of a decentralized currency I was expecting a "far-right" libertarian type.

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