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think of the cost savings on massages and yoga classes and espresso machines!

I chuckled, but more importantly, think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area (if Google can get a decent remote hiring process in place, much smaller companies have but TBD if Google has the fortitude to). Lots of folks who otherwise couldn’t work for Google now can, and will get paid more than their market probably allowed for previously.

> think of the comp savings when you hire from outside the Bay Area

Just considering the US, I wonder how many engineers are talented enough to work for Google, are interested in working for Google, and aren't already there, even in a satellite office? I'm sure there are some, but between a variety of office locations and good pay, I'm not convinced there's a large untapped pool of rural tech talent.

You might be right, but now that Google is more accepting of the concept the cost is very low (at their scale) for them to make the attempt.

I'm sure there's plenty, even only considering how many new graduates they hire every year and then relocate.

Am I incorrect in assuming that you don’t have to be “talented” to be hired at Google just masochistic enough to “grind leetCode”?

As far as I can tell, and I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong, it seems like there are a lot of positions in AWS’s consultancy arm that were always hiring in “virtual locations”. My position was advertised as one.

Never heard of that arrangement. Every AWS role an AWS recruiter ran past me required relo to Seattle or NYC.

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/location/virtual-locations

I work at a “virtual location”. It was in the job description.

This is helpful, thanks for sharing. Hope you’re enjoying the new role.

I have personally saved _thousands_ of dollars in addition to hours of my life not having to commute.

There's an element of seriousness in your sarcastic comment for more than just companies.

The hours of your life saved not commuting will instead be used to work. Think of the savings, seriously, not even sarcasm.

your effective hourly rate just dropped, yep.

Y'all need to log off at 8 hours worked. I used to work 8:30 - 4:30 (read: get up at 7, shower, bus at 8, in work at 8:30). Now I work 7 - 3 most days (literally roll out of bed and sit down at my desk). If I'm tired, I'll snooze my alarm for an hour and work 8 - 4. My life is significantly better working from home.

How? I start and finish at exactly the same time as in office and after hours I am not contactable other than a phone call which has never happened.

On if you let yourself be taken advantage of.

And I have spent many thousands more renting more space for my WFH office (upgrading our 1bdr) that normally my work would be paying for

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