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Yeah, but dealing with debugging leaking resources (because memory is just one of many resources that a program will use, and GCs don't help with most of them) sucks.

https://ruudvanasseldonk.com/2015/10/06/neither-necessary-no...

Ownership model seems hard for people to internalize, but once learned feels very natural, leads to programs that are better structured and frees programmer from "manually managing resources".

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That is what happens when one doesn't learn the available tooling for doing deterministic resource management in GC languages.

That also happens when the person is very eager to talk about rust.

Talking to the wrong person I guess.

> available tooling for doing deterministic resource management in GC languages

Other than Python's `with` and alikes, wrapping in a closure, `defer`/`scope` (Go/D), what else is there? What am I missing? None of these work if the lifetime of a resource is not a simple "this scope".

Swift, D and Nim have RAII just like C++.

Idris2 and now Haskell have linear types.

I'm seen other comments of yours and this is a final straw, which makes me stop wasting my time.

Good, now that you have more time available, you can learn how to do C++ style RAII on those languages.

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