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Why would you wait in line 11 hours to vote when you can drop off your ballot at a ballot box?

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/us/texas-election-ballot-drop...

One ballot box per county in some counties means waiting hours in line for that too.

You can also mail them in. That whole thing was a fake controversy.

I suspect you and I define the words “fake” and “controversy” quite differently.

The opinion issued by the federal appeals court gives a lot more context than any news article I've seen. Even if you read just the first couple of pages, you'll be better-informed than 99% of the people talking about this, and I suspect you'll see my point.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/20/20-50867-CV0.pdf

I’m not sure what bearing a court opinion has on my criticism of your calling the events that happened in Texas “fake”; regardless that said court decided the impact of Abbott’s proclamation was de minimis.

The court opinion explains what actually happened. My point was that the controversy was fake, not that the events were fake.

Are sure the post office is reliable at this point?

Except that one political party has been in the process of attempting to cripple the Post Office and their ability to operate effectively and efficiently for the last 6 months leading up to the election. If I were a paranoid person, I would say it almost looks like some sort of concerted effort.

“They need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots. But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.” President Trump

In Texas, where I live, the Republican Governor ordered counties to remove all but one box in each county.

In California, the Republican party setup unofficial drop boxes that aren't legal.

> the Republican party setup unofficial drop boxes that aren't legal.

How is this not a felony? AFAIK it is a felony to set up a fake mailbox to steal peoples' mail.

Some states have allow for ballot harvesting, where you can legally take someone else's ballot to the drop box. So these boxes are a bit of a grey area, as ballot harvesting is legal in CA. The NYT article from this morning said the CA AG has issued a cease and desist order, so its likely to be challenged in the court.

Because where they do exist, it's really hard to tell if that ballot box is real.

Because one political party has decided to install fake ballot boxes.

Source?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/us/politics/california-go...

The Republican Party of California set up ballot boxes in locations frequented by Republican voters so that they can harvest Republican-favorable ballots and... throw them away?

I get that putting up ballot boxes that pose as "Official" should/may be illegal, but the ballots that go into those boxes are going to get delivered and counted.

What they have done constitutes a felony.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ca-gop-ballot-drop-boxes/

Shenanigans are not limited to one of the political parties. https://nypost.com/2020/09/27/project-veritas-uncovers-ballo...

Project Veritas is a famously unreliable source.

Project Veritas habitually lies to manufacture controversy, and the subject of the video has said that they offered him $10,000 to claim that he was paid to harvest ballots [1], so I think we can dismiss these allegations.

[1] https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/10/man-says-he-was-of...

He said he didn't do it? Case closed!

That’s kind of the point, not every district has ballot boxes to drop off at. I think some of us (myself included) have forgotten that all parts of the US aren’t the same.

Paranoia that the postman, post office, and several different people are working together to get your vote to not count and you can wait in line to cast your vote and make "sure" it counts.

Or wait a couple days. People who can't wait to vote will head out on day one of early voting.

there are no ballot boxes in many locations and long lines form at them too.

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