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It's never been a goal of incumbent financial institutions to prevent cryptocurrency from becoming dominant... they just want to slow down its adoption and use until they're prepared to co-opt it, just like power companies are doing with grid tied solar panels.

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It's becoming a pattern now

Internet -> Centralizing

AI -> Centralizing

Blockchain -> Centralizing

Is Technology cursed to give us 1984?

Technology isn't doing the centralization, it's the people who are building and managing systems centralizing them.

In that sense, we're doomed to give ourselves 1984 unless we consciously and continuously fight everyday to not slip into a dystopia.

I think that the economies of scale enabled by tech lead to centralization.

There's also very little friction to prevent centralization. With physical goods, there might be geographic/logistical reasons why a dominant player can't easily be competitive in every market, but this largely isn't true of tech.

And given the short time-frame needed to bring a software product to market, how possible is it really for a small player to compete with any of the software giants? Even if you come up with something really innovative, how likely is it that your product can't be replicated by an organization with infinite resources?

Historically, this is probably one of the easiest times for a small player to compete with the giants. Is it really harder to compete with big tech than it was with Rockefeller's Standard Oil, Carnegie's steel industry, Vanderbilt's railroads, AT&T's national phone network?

It's much easier to compete against tech and we have evidence as small players like TikTok, and even Snapchat have done it successfully.

Sure you can name a couple of unicorns, but tiktok and snapchat themselves occupy spaces where there are maybe 2-3 competitors at most.

Is it beneficial for there to be more than 2-3 competitors? That may be sufficient from a market POV.

There are also areas that are ripe for competition. For example gmail hasn't changed/innovated in nearly a decade.

Atlassian's Jira is the leader for bug tracking but is pretty terrible.

> Is it beneficial for there to be more than 2-3 competitors? That may be sufficient from a market POV.

Lol I don't know what markets you are talking about, but definitely not from an economist point of view.

Interesting, is there an optimal number of competitors from an economist pov?

I saw a paper once saying that in any market where the top four competitors controlled more than 60% of the market, they'd act as a de-facto cartel. (I wish I could find it again).

Also network effects. Facebook and Twitter aren't king because of their scalability, they're king because you use Facebook/Twitter to connect with the two billion people who are already on Facebook/Twitter. Not even Google managed to sustain a competitor to Facebook.

Relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law

Solve et coagula.

First position the goal posts where the revolution or disruption is oriented towards freedom. Next, use the disruption to centralize power where you want it.

The strategy is centuries old at a minimum.

Agreed on Internet and Blockchain -- however ML on embedded systems is poised to decrease reliance on ML inferencing in the cloud which cuts out a few certain big players from hoarding massive amounts of potentially sensitive information. One key way to ensure IoT security is to not transmit that data in the first place (on top of the massive energy efficiency improvement that is a driving force behind embedded ML)

Centralization = lack of "Critical Thinking" taught in education systems.

I'd say this is more tied to people not being taught to question power, and less to do with technology.

That's because centralized systems are more efficient than decentralized ones in most of the metrics that matter to end users.

It's also why nation states exist. More centralized organizations can subjugate and absorb, or just out-compete less-centralized ones.

A basilic

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