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> There's no custom framework invented here.

Proceeds to literally invent a custom framework.

It’s interesting, but I’ll stick with Vue/React.

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> Proceeds to literally invent a custom framework.

What definition do you have of “framework” if you say that? I just see a bunch of procedures that create and manipulate DOM, coordinating through regular events and selectors. There are patterns and loose organizing principles, but no framework code that I can see.

Original author here. During the study, I explicitly forbid myself from writing general-purpose helpers which would make up a framework. Would you mind elaborating what in your view makes up the "custom framework"? Thanks!

If general-purpose helpers make up a framework, then what is the difference between a library and a framework? I'm pretty sure jQuery is not a framework.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make a difference between frameworks and libraries in this case; both would violate the method/goal of the case study which was finding vanilla patterns that are not dependant on general-purpose code.

Not OP, but in my reading of your case study, you still made a framework. Instead of having a code-based framework, where the methods and classes enforce how you implement your system - you created a convention-based framework (use a specific CSS naming technique, model your JS on this template, etc.).

Isn't a “convention-based framework” just... a convention? With such a generous definition of “framework”, is it even realistic to solve this problem without accidentally creating one? Would you need to purposefully avoid any type of consistency between the different modules, and solve the same problem in different ways if it comes up more than once?

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