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You should have learnt by now to not ask for evidence for virtue signalling contest stories. Just accept the narrative unquestioningly and move on.

We are living in a brave new post-Truth world.

Indians go against the narrative of systemic racism in the US , so it is only time that the left came after them.

Once again, instead of attacking me or downvoting, ask yourself logically: where is the evidence for this?

I am not saying it does not exist. All I am asking for is some data of large scale caste discrimination not anecdotes.

We can find anecdotes for discrimination by every permutation of labels.

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You are denying caste discrimination and then washing it off as "post truth" world. That's atrocious actually. Caste discrimination is not some kind of narrative building either, these are lived experiences spanning centuries.

Their comment includes the phrase "I'm not saying it doesn't exist", so I think you're being a bit uncharitable with this retort.

"post-Truth", "virtue signalling", and "accept the narrative unquestioningly" are all (barely) coded flags to say "This thing doesn't exist/isn't true." Following those up with "I'm not saying it doesn't exist" is just a rhetorical feint to seem reasonable.

More charitably, you could read that as "doesn't widely exist", which would track with my experience working with dozens of Indian developers over the last couple decades.

I think OP was being curmudgeonly because they saw this as people trying to drag Indians into the existing culture war stuff as a pawn, after basically pretending they don't exist for decades while getting all sorts of mad on behalf of different minorities.

I think requesting the most charitable reading of something that starts from a decidedly uncharitable position is an unfair request. If cscurmudgeon wanted to have a real conversation about it, they could do their own research; this information is pretty easy to find. In this thread, there's a link to a survey of Dalits and Shudras in the US where they report experiencing widespread discrimination. Instead, they came in throwing rhetorical bombs. That's not the behavior of someone who wants to have a reasonable discussion, it's the behavior of someone who wants to derail the conversation using the language of the culture war they're claiming to oppose.

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