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Comment by jjd33 | Hacker News Reader

I don't get why people complain when China spies but when US does the exact same it seemingly doesn't matter. I don't condone spying at all just seems like hypocrisy.

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I don't get what this comment is aimed at?

The idea that US spying doesn't matter to anyone in the US is very out of touch, within the technical community and even outside of it.

The way surveillance manifests in the US and China is also quite different, enough that it warrants comparing and contrasting those differences.

This was not to say "Private citizens think US spying is good" (even though you'd be surprised how many non technical people think so). If the US spies the government is justifying it for "security purposes" and as necessary. I was talking about the blatant hypocrisy with the likes of the US wanting to ban Tik Tok while Facebook does the exact same (and the US gov being sponsored by a Saudi Prince known for human right abuses on North Korean level).

It's really matter because of this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/zhenhua-data-f...

Reverse engineering a published app isn't the same as "spying".

OP might be referencing how the linked repository’s README says TikTok is spyware

it's blatant hypocrisy. Tiktok is not exceptional when it comes to social media networks, it's just that they are headquartered in China

And China has laws that mandate all Chinese companies (meaning every company) must share every single bit of data, any time, with the authorities.

Cynical alphanet references aside, you need a judge's order in the US.

No hypocrisy.

US spying on people does not automatically make China spying on people good.

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