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I checked, and they are still selling knives. Sure, you can use a knife to cut food or walk through the woods pretending to be a "survivalist" (judging from my search for "knives"), but it can also be used to murder people.

But also checked "TVs", and they are absolutely still selling those. TVs are like the number one item used for infringement. I am VERY confused.

And don't get me started about food. Without food, it's basically impossible to infringe, yet ebay allows all sorts of food listings.

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They also sell HDMI capture cards and HDMI splitters that can remove HDCP. As if those aren't encouraging infringement.

Which ones? So I know to avoid them.

I believe ones with 'hdcp bypass' are the ones you should stay away from https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m...

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Any HDMI splitter. The "Content Protection" encryption on the wire for the digital video doesn't allow the stream to be split; to do so requires stripping off the encryption in a way not licensed by the industry consortium.

Aren't there non-HDCP splitters around that only allow unprotected content through? (I don't know, but I had thought so)

I'm pretty sure compliant splitters are expected to decrypt, split, then reencrypt. What a waste of resources.

Nah, it's okay to split an HDCP encrypted stream as long as you enforce HDCP on the outputs as well.

I think the standard allows for something like 32 endpoints.

Daily reminder that HDCP is a crime against physical layer conventions. It’s an Orwellian theft of data. Those bits on the line are my bits.

Legally, that depends on what the source is. Realistically I'm with you and I will capture whatever I want that is in my stream and they can't stop me.

TIL we don't buy devices, we rent them indefinitely.

Not every splitter can remove HDCP. Only some. It's a real problem because right now I am trying to get a PS3 going again. I've established that the HDMI port isn't burnt out because I am able to get it to show an initial screen but not past that point. I have a new splitter on the way, hope this one works before I test other things out. I'm pretty sure the issue is the HDCP is malfunctioning or is corrupted because I hot-plugged the HDMI cable while the unit was turned on. I also notice an interesting symptom, on my monitor when I attempt to get the PS3 going and then switch over to the computer, if I play something that requires HDCP the monitor will flash a brightly coloured static snow pattern before continuing to play. This doesn't happen if the PC and monitor have been powered down. So whatever is wrong with the PS3's HDCP is definitely leaking out into the monitor temporarily.

HDCP is awful. Thanks Intel.

> HDCP is awful. Thanks Intel.

Agreed. HDCP is the reason I can't play most 4k content on my (older) 4k TV.

HDCP is why I steal most of my content. None of the streaming devices will talk to the buggy HDCP implementation on my Samsung TV.

“Can be used for infringement” is not the same thing as “encourages infringement” why does everyone make these bad faith comparisons.

How does a raspberry pi encourage infringement more than a regular desktop pc?

They are cheap enough that you can buy one and setup a dedicated machine to play old video games.

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