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> The preschool measure is a 1.5% tax on incomes of more than $125,000 per year and joint filings topping $250,000.

More like taxing the professional class

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Don’t you know, we’re “the rich” and get to deflect attention from the actual capital class

Buy real estate in Vancouver, WA now. That 0% income tax is gonna look mighty nice.

You know I've lived in a place with 0% income taxes and the people it attracts are wholly worth paying to move away from.

Like the awful people of Seattle? Or Nashville? Or Miami?

Or Austin, Houston, Dallas, El Paso, etc

I mean, yes? What's your point? Vancouver, WA is a nice town, too.

My experience differs: The higher end places I've lived had 0% income tax (because the wealthy had the means to work within the system to keep it that way), while I've lived in some pretty crappy places with surprisingly high income taxes.

Isn’t this 100% opinion? It’s equivalent to saying a republican is miserable living in blue country. 0% income tax is likely a red state and you sound like a dem. Of course you wouldn’t like it.

So $1,875 per annum on a $250k income.

That’s some mighty good value pre-school. Who wouldn’t take that deal?

People without kids in preschool

I wouldn't mind paying this, for the greater good of the local community.

Maybe limiting the tax to families who claim children as dependents would seem more fair.

"So let me explain why I like to pay taxes for schools, even though I don't personally have a kid in school: It's because I don't like living in a country with a bunch of stupid people." - John Green

This. It seems like a small price to pay not to have half an electorate believe political rivals are child-abducting lizard people.

So brainwashed into believing one side? Why can’t we just want to make kids smarter instead of brainwashing them into being liberals?

I was agreeing with you unless you believe in lizard people.

yup you’re right, my head was melted when i read the chain last time. re-reading it now i dunno what i was thinking.

Stupid people both amuse me, and give me their money, so I don't really see a downside here.

I believe the cutoffs are for taxable income, not gross.

The professional class will barely even notice.

1.5% is a quite a lot for a specific state tax. oregon already levies a 9.9% tax on incomes over $125k. this is a ~15% increase to the highest bracket.

That is a fairly large amount. At least $2000 dollars for a childless single person. Or at least $4000 for a childless couple trying to in-vitro.

Is pre-school valuable or is it a babysitter?

Well, either is fine, in that it allows people with low income a childcare option at all.

Where did you get these #s from? This is a progressive tax and only affects income above the threshold. If you make 150k as a single earner, you don’t pay 1.5% on 150k, you pay 1.5% on 150k-125k, or 1.5% of 25k which is $375. And that’s if you didn’t reduce your income in other ways (401k contributions, pretax health or child care, HSA, etc.)

This is such a common misconception in the US. I'm amazed how it isn't understood by many.

I found a positive correlation between someone’s tax obligation and their understanding of tax law.

Where do you propose people leave their kids at when both parents need to work?

At a pre-school they pay for.

Preschool is extremely valuable for childhood development

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