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Last I checked Google didn't sell data to anyone either. I'm also interested in the claim that Apple Maps collects less data in this respect - they both report your current location for traffic analysis and have your day-to-day movement option available (the same that powers Find My Friends on iOS).

Are you sure you're just not rationalizing Apples collection? It's kinda important to be realistic when it comes to privacy and not be mislead by loud marketing.

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On iPhone your location history (they call it Significant Locations) is "end-to-end encrypted and cannot be read be Apple".

There's still the "Product Improvement > Routing and Traffic" toggle (enabled by default) but I'd be surprised if this isn't anonymized and/or scrubbed frequently.

> Last I checked Google didn't sell data to anyone either.

If they allow advertising based on constraints on that data, they are selling it, albeit indirectly.

This is what I meant by selling data.

The only data I know of that they sell directly is to NSA where they provide access to data and get money for it. They are largely compelled to do this though and I expect anyone in the US with data would be forced to as well.

Interestingly since google could deanonymize if they wanted, I wonder if nowadays NSA is just sucking in all our profiles from google and then deanonymizing to have de facto profiles on every human on the planet.

IIRC the only data sent to Apple is the crowdsourced traffic data, which can be disabled. Everything else stays on device or is E2E encrypted.

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