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> The language/tools are not the problem, it's the people/organization.

The language is a problem, because Java was specially created for this type of organizations. And it is not surprising that Java attracts this type of people (fungible crowds having no pride in their craft).

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I disagree that it's possible to paint all developers using this language with such a broad brush. By this notion everyone that uses Rails loves being a "ninja" and monkey patching.

My comment was about the language, not the people. I have no doubt that there are many good programmers who use Java.

But I'm not sure one can be a good programmer if Java (or any other mediocre language) is the only thing she knows.

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