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You can only hear that from someone that still mix up anarchy with chaos.

a good example to end this discussion quickly is to point that international law is anarchy, and is pointing to a pretty stable direction. And I do not see anyone claiming for a global earth goverment. just see how little UN has to say in anything.

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Well little is a relative term. UNs had a big impact on politics in my country. I also found the quote a pretty amusing and quite valid tidbit, given that Anarchy simply means a gov. without ruler.

But, membership in the UN is as of yet voluntary, yes? Membership of states in the US, for instance, is not.

It was just a comment. I did not disagree with international politics being an anarchic system contrary to chaos. Just the UN bit. I do in fact see it as a very clever observation.

The UN is just a face to the power. Do you think the global nations agreed on Israel for example? No, the powerful nations decided, UN just delivered the news.

Of course UN has some power. but it's mostly a messenger.

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